Staying Agile & In The Game w/ Pamela Meyer

People Business w/ O'Brien McMahon

Pamela Meyer is a leading Agile Innovation expert who works with leaders, teams, and organizations that need to be more agile and innovative to compete in a rapidly changing world. She is the author of five books on agility, innovation, and learning, including her newest book, Staying in the Game: Leading and Learning with Agility for a Dynamic Future as well as The Agility Shift: Creating Agile and Effective Leaders, Teams and Organizations and From Workplace to Playspace: Innovating, Learning and Changing Through Dynamic Engagement.
Mentioned in this Episode:

• Meyer Agile Innovations: https://pamela-meyer.com/meyer-agile-innovation/
• Staying In The Game (book): https://a.co/d/2Cg32lx
• The Agility Shift (book): https://a.co/d/3IYwA3e
• Tim Ferriss podcast with Arthur C Brooks on happiness: https://tim.blog/2023/09/11/arthur-c-brooks/
• Finite and Infinite Games: https://a.co/d/cOX4j21
• Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away by Annie Duke: https://a.co/d/9ldS2uY
• The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek: https://a.co/d/4znuPke

Timestamps:
(2:32) - Introducing Pamela and her work.
(3:38) - Why did you write “Staying In The Game” and what is it about?
(6:48) - What is a "game"? How should we think about our life in terms of games, and how do we know what game we are actually playing?
(8:22) - What are the four ‘P’s?
(10:15) - If we aren’t feeling purpose or passion in our career should we find another "game"?
(12:15) - How do you take something that's working in one area and transfer it to other areas of your life?
(15:55) - How do we balance the hard work and suffering it takes to reach a goal with happiness?
(21:47) - How do you think about deciding between "how do I embrace the struggle?" versus "it’s time to move on"?
(26:40) - How do we continue to play the game that makes us money while also loosening its grip on us so we can enjoy it?
(29:03) - What does it mean to be agile?
(29:58) - How does somebody self-assess their agility?
(31:30) - Where do we start to improve our agility?
(35:44) - Why is slowing down important to agility?
(38:06) - Can you talk about the four different kinds of reflection?
(43:40) - How do we move from self-confidence to self-awareness?
(49:42) - What is the purpose of business?