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This podcast provides hope, healing, and understanding for anyone who has been ghosted. What is ghosting? Imagine sharing a connection with someone: a dating match, significant other, friend, family member, or even a business partner - but one day - they disappear out of thin air. Texts, calls, and emails go unanswered. You know this person is still alive, yet they have vanished from your life; they have “ghosted” you. This podcast is dedicated to helping people who have been affected by som ...
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Holy Ghosting

Lindsay, Meg & Sarai

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Lindsay, Meg, Sarai & friends - a bunch of former church kids who came of age in 80s and 90s American Evangelicalism - are Holy Ghosting. In each episode, we share our youthful experiences and stories of the harm we endured and perpetrated as American Evangelicals and we laugh, we're sarcastic ladies.All three of our hosts grew up in different cities and didn’t meet until recently - and yet…the culture of Evangelicalism is strong and chock full of harm and quizzical quirks everywhere. But no ...
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Ghosting Around with Kathleen DeRose and John Cason

Kathleen DeRose and John Cason, Ghost Stories and Ghost Hunters

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Broadcasting from “Ghoast to Ghoast” from Spookane, Washington to Boo York City, this is “Ghosting around” with your Ghosts/Hosts, Kathleen DeRose and John Cason, where we talk about haunted places across America. Each week, we explore one town, one city or one travel destination and tell you about their ghosts. Basically, it’s a podcast ghost tour. Follow us on Instagram @ghostingaroundpodcast Email us at ghostingaroundpodcast@gmail.com Logo by Emily Anne Follow her on Instagram @EmilyAnneT ...
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Music can serve as a profound source of healing, especially in the aftermath of being ghosted. In this episode, Gretta has conversations with two remarkably talented musicians who transformed their experiences of being ghosted into incredible songs. Gustavo Zaiah and Marie Pratt, hailing from different countries, share insights about ghosting and t…
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In this episode, we dive into the not-so-wonderful world of Youth With a Mission, aka YWAM. We chat with our pal (and Lindsay’s sister), D.L. Mayfield about the history and horrors of the cult-like organization that began with one white guy's vision of young people sweeping the globe for Jesus. (Totally not creepy, right?) Fast forward a few decade…
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If you’re struggling with your body image or eating disorders after being ghosted, you’re not alone. In this episode, Dr. Michele Jensen, PsyD, LMFT, joins Gretta to discuss navigating difficulties, such as the belief that you were ghosted due to your physical appearance and what to do if your eating habits have been impacted by being ghosted. Disc…
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In our latest episode we jump into the turbulent waters of gendered messages and purity culture with a critical eye on the Christian advice book, 'For Young Women Only'—or as we like to call it, “How to NOT Cause a Guy to Stumble.” Published in the early 2000s, this book perpetuates harmful beliefs about gender, sexuality, and the role of women in …
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This is one of my first and most popular episodes from the Coping With Ghosting archives. What do you do if somebody ghosts you? What happens if the ghost returns? Is it possible to reunite with your ghost? The brilliant Dr. Natalie Jones, PSYD, LPCC, owner of Lifetime Counseling and Consulting and creator of A Date With Darkness Podcast, answers t…
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If you're suffering from insomnia, nightmares, or sleep issues, you're not alone. In this episode, Gretta and Dr. Bijoy John discuss everything you need to know about how to sleep well when you're stressed out, anxious, and heartbroken. Dr. Bijoy John is a board-certified physician and practicing sleep specialist with over 25 years of experience in…
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What happens when a homeschooled horse girl feels “god put Africa on her heart?” Well. It could be a lot of things. In fact, your own fave Ghostie Hostie, Lindsay, was exactly this kind of girlie. And yet! Just as two paths diverge in a yellow wood, so do our choices take us to different places. Lindsay, for one, went on a medical mission to Uganda…
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Has a friend ghosted you? Are you struggling to trust new friends after being ghosted in friendship? If so, this show is for you. In this episode, Gretta asks Dr. Daryl Appleton, M.ED, CAGS, LMHC, Ed.D. questions about friendship ghosting from the Coping With Ghosting online communities, including: - Why do friends ghost? - What if a ghost returns …
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Just when you think you’ve had your fill of problematic white women, Renee Bach comes along. Look, your Murder of MILFs (hey! It stands for “Mom I’d Like to Friend,” get your head out of the gutter!) watched “Savior Complex,” a documentary detailing the ascent of a young missionary, Renee Bach and Serving His Children, the organization she founded …
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In this episode, Meg and Lindsay chat with Crystal Britt, a licensed clinical social worker and actual therapist about the famed book, ‘The Five Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts’ by pastor (NOT therapist) Gary Chapman. We talk about how the Five Love Languages are reductive, gendered, and heteronormative and how there are many better r…
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In this episode, host Gretta interviews Joanna Hardis, a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist who was ghosted by a man she was dating, only to find out later that he had been cheating on her the whole time. Gretta and Joanna discuss: How to manage overthinking after being ghosted Ways to calm an anxious mind Tips for dealing with the stress of being ghos…
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If you're an HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) who's been ghosted, you've come to the right place. Rachel Dorneanu is an individual and couples psychotherapist based in Atlanta, Georgia, specializing in HSPs. In this episode, host Gretta and Rachel discuss: - HSPs and how to know if you are highly sensitive - Ways to set boundaries after being ghosted …
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Have you ever felt like you didn't have a voice? Or that you didn't feel safe to talk about your needs or interests in your relationships, workplaces, your home -- uh, church, maybe? Well, today your favorite Apostolic Apostates, Lindsay, Meg, and Sarai join forces with Meredith Holley of Eris Resolution to dig into the basics of Empowered Communic…
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Happy New Year Ghosties! We're back with an update and then we're sharing one of our favorite episodes where we talk to DL Mayfield in the midst of their deconversion from Christianity and we reflect on what the impact is on kids like us raised in high control religion. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/holy-ghosting/exclusive-content…
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What are some signs that you may get ghosted in dating? Can you predict if you're going to get ghosted? Lauren Josephine, the author of "Looking for Something Serious," went on over 200 dates throughout her 20s and 30s and felt called to normalize modern daters' struggles. Lauren joins host Gretta to discuss her experience with being ghosted, how t…
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What happens when you're deconstructing with your middle-aged mom friends...and you get to a point where you're like, cool, I'm no longer a part of this religion, but how do I live now? Short answer: Howsoever you fucking want; but more specifically, it's something you get to work out with fear and trembling, just like you probably did with your ow…
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It's beginning to look a lot like X-mas - you know, with the silver bells, the Santa at the mall, the carnage left behind when people utter the phrase "Happy Holidays..." Your Bible Busting Besties, Lindsay, Meg, and Sarai are joined by the man behind the myth, the legend, The Original Sinfluencer, Joshua Colburn. Get in on the delightful hangout a…
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In honor of Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and All the Buying Things Days from now until approximately December 25th, your Queen Ghosties, Lindsay, Meg, & Sarai bring you a deep dive into all things Christian bookstores, products, and marketing. They also take a perplexing look at why Christians are such brilliant capitalists whilst claiming they foll…
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Is your ghost living rent free in your mind? Are you having trouble feeling like yourself after being ghosted? If so, this episode is for you. In it, Estee K. and Gretta discuss friendship ghosting, dating ghosts, and what taking your power back looks like. Take Your Power Back Workshop Connect With Estee: Coaching With Estee Email: esteek.co@gmail…
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Just when you thought we were done with ghouls and horrors for the year, we're here to point out that the holidays are just around the corner...so beware! Because they love you, your terrific trio of hosts asked Dr. Laura Anderson back to give us all some tools to use at the dinner table and beyond. Dr. Laura has an array of ways to handle family c…
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The specter of Halloween is upon us yet again! And so is this Best Of episode - To Hell with the Devil's Holiday or: Suck it Harvest Parties! Learn about Lindsay's quest to become Queen of Halloween, and hear some spooky stories of youth group shenanigans gone awry. Joyous references include: Hell Houses, Heaven's Gates/Hell's Flames, and other com…
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Have you been ghosted during the job application process? Have you been iced out by somebody you work with or who works for you? Are your sales prospects ignoring you? In this episode, Gretta interviews her business coach, Angie M. Callen, CPRW, CPCC, to get her take on coping with ghosting in the professional world. Connect With Angie: No More Mon…
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For kids who grew up during the Satanic Panic - especially those of us raised in Good Christian Homes - talking about, thinking about, worrying about, or wondering about demons was just an everyday thing. Join your Unwholesome Homeschoolers (and Meg) as they remember their personal demonologies and the way we really did think we always had demons s…
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(Ultimate Spoiler: Oops, All White Supremacy - AGAIN?) Have you lost some people you love to an internet conspiracy theory? Is your weird aunt saying wild shit about Jewish space lasers at family dinners? If so, you might be a human being who still believes the earth is a globe that orbits the sun, or, say, that gravity exists...and your friends an…
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What is narcissism, why do narcissists ghost, and why do they return to haunt people? What is love bombing, and what is narcissistic discard? How can you safely leave a relationship with a narcissist? In this episode of Coping With Ghosting, you'll learn the answers to all these questions and more. Gretta is joined by Sterlin Mosley, Ph.D., author …
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CW: child abuse Of your three Holy Hosts, two of them were homeschooled. Both take a perverse kind of pride in being not like other homeschoolers, but if you really think about it, that may be the most homeschool thing about them. All that said, homeschooling has been on a meteoric rise since the 1980’s (coincidentally, when the Christian Evangelic…
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CW: Child Abuse, IBLP and Bill Gothard Abuse If you're a survivor of IBLP please find support at: Recovering Grace Shiny Happy People gave us a tiny glimpse into the realities of the IBLP (Institute in Basic Life Principles) cult. *Sidebar: be sure to listen to the Too Many Cults mini-series on this feed if you want to deep dive with our very own L…
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How do you heal after being ghosted after a toxic relationship? How do you know if you're in a harmful or toxic relationship right now? Listen as Shannon Petrovich, LCSW, LISAC, BCD, shares: - How to detect the red flags of a harmful relationship - Ways to navigate gaslighting, love bombing, and trauma bonding - Why ghosting is a grand manipulation…
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Content heads up: rape, sexual assault, and institutional irresponsibility. The Evangelical church has quite an interesting relationship with capitalism and exploitation, and guess who cares about that? We do! And bonus: Fina of the Mindful Minds podcast cares about this too, so buckle up as she joins the Unfaithful Few, Lindsay, Meg, and Sarai, on…
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Hey, Ghosties! Whether you rocked a camp t-shirt with a punny camp theme or wore one to cover your already modest AF bathing suit, you're going to enjoy our encore visit to Evangelical Christian summer camp! Gird your loins for some jarring admissions of life-long devotion to the very concept of summer camp, including our own Sarai admitting she'd …
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Ahoy, Ghosties! While we're still on break until we launch our next episodes starting in September, we missed you too much to stay all the way away. Give a listen to a classic episode from our first season and cringe at the stories of white saviorism, poverty tourism, and otherwise ghastly evangelizing activities Lindsay, Meg, and Sarai performed i…
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What is attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and how can it impact relationships? Listen as Kate Kamoshita, ADHD Educator and Learning Consultant, shares: - Tips for being in relationships with people who have ADHD - How and why a person with ADHD person may appear to be ghosting - The impact being ghosted has on people with ADHD - Exec…
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Y’all. Flamy Grant is this podcast’s favorite Drag Queen, and today’s episode is glorious because we get to talk with her! Join Meg and an ailing Sarai, as well as Lindsay, in spirit, as they chat with Flamy about queer joy and how we can all make more room to be more compassionate to ourselves and others. Pride month is full of celebration and joy…
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Join your bestie ghostie trifecta, Lindsay, Meg, and Sarai as we have an amazing conversation with a particularly rad human being. Val is one of Meg's longtime dear friends, raised the same funky way we were in the Evangelical church. Listen as Val shares her journey of coming out in her 30's. Y'all, repression is REAL! She has a beautiful story to…
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This is the last of our four-episode series "Too Many Cults", where Lindsay and Krispin (from the Prophetic Imagination Station and Linds' BIL) recap the docuseries Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets.TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse, psychological abuse, harsh punishment of children), controlling parenting, groomin…
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Content Heads-Up: this episode contains mentions of attempted suicide, mental health challenges, and sexuality and gender dysphoria. Listen with care and call your bestie if you need support. If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts about taking their own lives, please dial the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988. Hey, Ghostie…
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Fascism in Plain Sight is the third episode of our mini-series "Too Many Cults", where Lindsay and Krispin (from the Prophetic Imagination Station and Linds' BIL) recap the docuseries Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets. In this episode we talk about how IBLP and Jim Bob Duggar hold onto money while those with less power do unpaid work. We al…
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What is attachment, and how does it relate to ghosting in friendships and dating? How can I learn my attachment style? How can I heal relational trauma? In this episode, Relationship Expert and Attachment Specialist, Rose Viggiano, answers these questions and more! Rose shares how she knew she was healing her relational trauma, including how she be…
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Imagine, giving birth to a beautiful baby…assigning them a gender, and just a few years later finding out they already know themselves better than we ever could. Hearing “I’m a girl” from a kiddo you assumed was a boy can elicit a lot of reactions. Today we talk to two moms who heard their kids when their children told them who they really are and …
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TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse, emotional neglect, psychological abuse, physical abuse (and violent punishment of children), intimate partner abuse. In this episode we talk about Bill Gothard’s teachings, women's gender roles, and parenting ideals that create environments where abuse could occur with impunity. This is t…
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Ghosties! Get ready for a month of amazing interviews celebrating PRIDE. Our first episode of this 4-Part Mini Series is a conversation with Kevin Garcia, author (of many things and most recently), “What Makes You Bloom: Cultivating a Practice for Connecting with Your Divine Self.” Kevin is a mystic who has discovered a path back to himself and his…
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This is the first in a special four-episode series: Too Many Cults, hosted by Lindsay and Krispin (from the Prophetic Imagination Station). They recap the docuseries Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets [Amazon Prime] TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse We’re recapping the episodes, talking about what stands out to us, …
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Imagine a world, where you could admit that you were interested - nay, desirous of - sex. What?? That's nuts - ladies don't want that shit, right?? Get ready to think again: it's ok to want sex (contrary to popular DC Talk lyrics). Join your triumphant trio as they talk with Dr. Laura Anderson about the literal pain and trauma that purity culture l…
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It's an episode about motherhood! It's an episode about feminism! It's an episode about feminism and motherhood and all of the fun messages we were taught about being a Good Christian Girl™! In this episode we get into all the nitty gritty of what it means to identify as a woman in The United States of Evangelical America. Here are just a few of th…
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Did you know that earlier this May, the U.S. Surgeon General released an advisory declaring loneliness a new public health epidemic in the United States? Being lonely and isolated is dangerous to your health on many levels, so in this episode, Gretta shares how to build a support network. She provides tips on who to connect with after being ghosted…
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Your fave middle-aged mom apostates connect with their friend Shaunea, a black woman who grew up in almost exclusively white spaces when her white mother converted to Christianity in the 1980’s. Sha’s mom had the kind of testimony Evangelicals went batshit crazy for back then (and still now!) Sha’s story about growing up black in a white Evangelica…
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If you grew up with Creationism instead of Science or had odd electives like Lapidary or Little House on the Prairie Curriculum then you may have been schooled by Christian Education! Our three hosts share all about their sheltered education from unschooling, homeschooling, and private education …so you know there are some pretty wild stories from …
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When somebody vanishes without explanation or warning, it's shocking and painful. But instead of caring for ourselves, we tend to focus tons of energy on the ghost. "Why did they do this? What did they think about me? Where are they?" These are normal and understandable questions, but when we ruminate on what we can't control (the ghost), we can lo…
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Growing up in American Christianity in the 80’s and 90’s meant we were smack dab in the height of Dobson Domination. That is, Dr. James Dobson and his Focus on the Family ubiquity in the realm of parenting and child rearing advice, children’s entertainment (and, behind the scenes, lobbying and more exciting political dealings)… If your parents “dar…
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