Steve Wilson -- The Developer's Playbook for Large Language Model Security: Building Secure AI Applications

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The Developer’s Playbook for Large Language Model Security by Steve Wilson

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Steve Wilson -- OWASP Top Ten for LLMs
Steve Wilson and Gavin Klondike -- OWASP Top Ten for LLM Applications Release

Two people Steve recommends you look up:
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Steve Wilson -- The Developer's Playbook for Large Language Model Security: Building Secure AI Applications

The Application Security Podcast

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MP3•Bölüm sayfası

Links:
The Developer’s Playbook for Large Language Model Security by Steve Wilson

Find Steve on LinkedIn

Previous Episodes:
Steve Wilson -- OWASP Top Ten for LLMs
Steve Wilson and Gavin Klondike -- OWASP Top Ten for LLM Applications Release

Two people Steve recommends you look up:
Chris Voss, Former FBI Negotiator and author of “Never Split the Difference”

Arshan Dabirsiaghi

FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA:

➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast
➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast
➜YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ApplicationSecurityPodcast

Thanks for Listening!

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