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1 #427 Rise of the Python Lord 36:31
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Topics covered in this episode: Git Town solves the problem that using the Git CLI correctly PEP 751 – A file format to record Python dependencies for installation reproducibility git-who and watchgha Share Python Scripts Like a Pro: uv and PEP 723 for Easy Deployment Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by Posit Package Manager : pythonbytes.fm/ppm Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: Git Town solves the problem that using the Git CLI correctly Git Town is a reusable implementation of Git workflows for common usage scenarios like contributing to a centralized code repository on platforms like GitHub, GitLab, or Gitea. Think of Git Town as your Bash scripts for Git, but fully engineered with rock-solid support for many use cases, edge cases, and error conditions. Keep using Git the way you do now, but with extra commands to create various branch types, keep them in sync, compress, review, and ship them efficiently. Basic workflow Commands to create, work on, and ship features. git town hack - create a new feature branch git town sync - update the current branch with all ongoing changes git town switch - switch between branches visually git town propose - propose to ship a branch git town ship - deliver a completed feature branch Additional workflow commands Commands to deal with edge cases. git town delete - delete a feature branch git town rename - rename a branch git town repo - view the Git repository in the browser Brian #2: PEP 751 – A file format to record Python dependencies for installation reproducibility Accepted From Brett Cannon “PEP 751 has been accepted! This means Python now has a lock file standard that can act as an export target for tools that can create some sort of lock file. And for some tools the format can act as their primary lock file format as well instead of some proprietary format.” File name: pylock.toml or at least something that starts with pylock and ends with .toml It’s exciting to see the start of a standardized lock file Michael #3: git-who and watchgha git-who is a command-line tool for answering that eternal question: Who wrote this code?! Unlike git blame, which can tell you who wrote a line of code, git-who tells you the people responsible for entire components or subsystems in a codebase. You can think of git-who sort of like git blame but for file trees rather than individual files. And watchgha - Live display of current GitHub action runs by Ned Batchelder Brian #4: Share Python Scripts Like a Pro: uv and PEP 723 for Easy Deployment Dave Johnson Nice full tutorial discussing single file Python scripts using uv with external dependencies Starting with a script with dependencies. Using uv add --script [HTML_REMOVED] [HTML_REMOVED] to add a /// script block to the top Using uv run Adding #!/usr/bin/env -S uv run --script shebang Even some Windows advice Extras Brian: April 1 pranks done well BREAKING: Guido van Rossum Returns as Python’s BDFL including Brett Cannon noted as “Famous Python Quotationist” Guido taking credit for “I came for the language but I stayed for the community” which was from Brett then Brett’s title of “Famous Python Quotationist” is crossed out. Barry Warsaw asking Guido about releasing Python 2.8 Barry is the FLUFL, “Friendly Language Uncle For Life “ Mariatta can’t get Guido to respond in chat until she addresses him as “my lord”. “… becoming one with whitespace.” “Indentation is Enlightenment” Upcoming new keyword: maybe Like “if” but more Pythonic as in Maybe: print("Python The Documentary - Coming This Summer!") I’m really hoping there is a documentary April 1 pranks done poorly Note: pytest-repeat works fine with Python 3.14, and never had any problems If you have to explain the joke, maybe it’s not funny. The explanation pi, an irrational number, as in it cannot be expressed by a ratio of two integers, starts with 3.14159 and then keeps going, and never repeats. Python 3.14 is in alpha and people could be testing with it for packages Test & Code is doing a series on pytest plugins pytest-repeat is a pytest plugin, and it happened to not have any tests for 3.14 yet. Now the “joke”. I pretended that I had tried pytest-repeat with Python 3.14 and it didn’t work. Test & Code: Python 3.14 won't repeat with pytest-repeat Thus, Python 3.14 won’t repeat. Also I mentioned that there was no “rational” explanation. And pi is an irrational number. Michael: pysqlscribe v0.5.0 has the “parse create scripts” feature I suggested! Markdown follow up Prettier to format Markdown via Hugo Been using mdformat on some upcoming projects including the almost done Talk Python in Production book . Command I like is mdformat --number --wrap no ./ uv tool install --with is indeed the pipx inject equivalent, but requires multiple --with's: pipx inject mdformat mdformat-gfm mdformat-frontmatter mdformat-footnote mdformat-gfm-alerts uv tool install mdformat --with mdformat-gfm --with mdformat-frontmatter --with mdformat-footnote --with mdformat-gfm-alerts uv follow up From James Falcon As a fellow uv enthusiast, I was still holding out for a use case that uv hasn't solved. However, after last week's episode, you guys finally convinced me to switch over fully, so I figured I'd explain the use case and how I'm working around uv's limitations. I maintain a python library supported across multiple python versions and occasionally need to deal with bugs specific to a python version. Because of that, I have multiple virtualenvs for one project. E.g., mylib38 (for python 3.8), mylib313 (for python 3.13), etc. I don't want a bunch of .venv directories littering my project dir. For this, pyenv was fantastic. You could create the venv with pyenv virtualenv 3.13.2 mylib313 , then either activate the venv with pyenv activate mylib313 and create a .python-version file containing mylib313 so I never had to manually activate the env I want to use by default on that project. uv doesn't have a great solution for this use case, but I switched to a workflow that works well enough for me: Define my own central location for venvs. For me that's ~/v Create venvs with something like uv venv --python 3.13 ~/v/mylib313 Add a simple function to my bashrc: ` workon() { source ~/v/$1/bin/activate } \ so now I can run \workon mylib313 or workon mylib38 when I need to work in a specific environment. uv's .python-version` support works much differently than pyenv's, and that lack of support is my biggest frustration with this approach, but I am willing to live without it. Do you Firefox but not Zen? You can now make pure Firefox more like Zen’s / Arc’s layout. 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1 #426 Committing to Formatted Markdown 29:18
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Topics covered in this episode: mdformat pre-commit-uv PEP 758 and 781 Serie : rich git commit graph in your terminal, like magic Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by Posit Connect Cloud : pythonbytes.fm/connect-cloud Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Brian #1: mdformat Suggested by Matthias Schöttle Last episode Michael covered blacken-docs, and I mentioned it’d be nice to have an autoformatter for text markdown. Matthias delivered with suggesting mdformat “Mdformat is an opinionated Markdown formatter that can be used to enforce a consistent style in Markdown files.” A python project that can be run on the command line. Uses a style guide I mostly agree with. I’m not a huge fan of numbered list items all being “1.”, but that can be turned off with --number, so I’m happy. Converts underlined headings to #, ##, etc. headings. Lots of other sane conventions. The numbering thing is also sane, I just think it also makes the raw markdown hard to read. Has a plugin system to format code blocks Michael #2: pre-commit-uv via Ben Falk Use uv to create virtual environments and install packages for pre-commit. Brian #3: PEP 758 and 781 PEP 758 – Allow except and except* expressions without parentheses accepted PEP 781 – Make TYPE_CHECKING a built-in constant draft status Also, PEP Index by Category kinda rocks Michael #4: Serie : rich git commit graph in your terminal, like magic While some users prefer to use Git via CLI, they often rely on a GUI or feature-rich TUI to view commit logs. Others may find git log --graph sufficient. Goals Provide a rich git log --graph experience in the terminal. Offer commit graph-centric browsing of Git repositories. Extras Michael: Sunsetting Search ? ( Startpage ) Ruff in or out ? Joke: Wishing for wishes…
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1 #425 If You Were a Klingon Programmer 37:55
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Topics covered in this episode: Why aren't you using uv ? Python Developer Tooling Handbook Calling all doc writers: blacken-docs Reinventing notebooks as reusable Python programs Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Brought to you by Posit Connect: pythonbytes.fm/connect . Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: Why aren't you using uv ? Fun conversation on X by Armin Ronacher . Interesting quotes from the thread I get it replaces pip/pyenv, but should I also use it instead of the built in 'python -m venv .venv'? But I need python installed to make python programs? Because it places the venv in the project folder and I can't run executables from there due to corporate policy. Many such cases. No idea why astral doesn't address this with more urgency. Sounds like a bad corporate policy :) i’m too lazy to switch from pyenv and pip trust issues, what if they do a bait and switch … Because everyone said that about poetry and I'm not sure I'm really ready to get hurt again. Masochism Many times I tried a lot of similar tools and always come back to pip and pip-tools. Them are just work, why should I spend my time for something "cool" that will bring more problems? I tried this week but I was expecting a "uv install requests" instead of "uv add". Switched back to pipenv. we partially use it. will transition when Dependabot support is available. I’ll leave it with → Jared Scheel: Seeing a whole lotta Stockholm Syndrome in the replies to this question. Brian #2: Python Developer Tooling Handbook Tim Hopper “This is not a book about programming Python. Instead, the goal of this book is to help you understand the ecosystem of tools used to make Python development easier and more productive” Covers tools related to packaging, linting, formatting, and managing dependencies. Michael #3: Calling all doc writers: blacken-docs Run black on python code blocks in documentation files You can also install blacken-docs as a pre-commit hook. It supports Markdown, reStructuredText, and LaTex files. Additionally, you can run it on Python files to reformat Markdown and reStructuredText within docstrings. Brian #4: Reinventing notebooks as reusable Python programs marimo allows you to store notebooks as plaintext Python files properties Git-friendly: small code change => small diff easy for both humans and computers to read importable as a Python module, without executing notebook cells executable as a Python script editable with a text editor Also, … testing with pytest “Because marimo notebooks are just Python files, they are interoperable with other tools for Python — including pytest. “ “ Testing cells. Any cell named as test_* is automatically discoverable and testable by pytest. The same goes for any cell that contains only test_ functions and Test classes.” “Importantly, because cells are wrapped in functions, running pytest test_notebook.py doesn’t execute the entire notebook — just its tests.” Extras Brian: PyConUS announces Refund Policy for International Attendees New format now live for The Complete pytest Course Bundle and component courses Each course now available separately also pytest Primary Power is 13 lessons, 3.9 hours Using pytest with Projects , 10 lessons, 3.4 hours pytest Booster Rockets , 6 lessons, 1.3 hours of content New format is easier to navigate Better for people who like different speeds. I’m usually a 1.25x-1.5x speed person. Now also with Congratulations! lessons (with fireworks) and printable certificates. Michael: PyCon Taiwan is currently calling for proposals HN trends follow up via Shinjitsu I'm sure some other Hacker News reader has already given you the feedback, but in the unlikely case that they haven't, You read those headlines in this segment exactly wrong. “Ask HN: Who is hiring?" is a monthly post that asks employers to post about jobs they have available “Ask HN: Who wants to be hired?” is a monthly topic where they ask people who are looking for jobs to post about themselves in the hope that their skillset it is a good match (and not an LLM generated resume) So unfortunately your rosy analysis might need a less rosy interpretation. Joke: Top 12 things likely to be overheard if you had a Klingon Programmer From Holgi on Mastodon…
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1 #424 We Will Test in Production 27:23
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Topics covered in this episode: The weird quirk with rounding in Python Python interpreter adds tail calls Remove punctuation from a string with translate and maketrans Extra, extra, extra Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Brian #1: The weird quirk with rounding in Python Tom Nijhof-Verheesb With numbers ending in .5, Python always rounds to an even number. round(0.5) → 0 round(1.5) → 2 etc This follows IEEE 754 You can use decimal if you need a different behavior. Michael #2: Python interpreter adds tail calls Ken Jin, a member of the project, has merged a new set of changes that have been benchmarked as improving performance by 10% for some architectures. "Speedup is roughly equal to 2 minor CPython releases worth of improvements. For example, CPython 3.12 roughly sped up by 5%.” Brian #3: Remove punctuation from a string with translate and maketrans Rodrigo “Don't use the method replace to remove punctuation from a Python string. Instead, use the method translate .” Michael #4: Extra, extra, extra Animation v Coding, hello world to transformers TypeScript rewritten in Go Firefox lies PyCon’s Startup Row Python in Production Book Extras Joke: Startrek Testing…
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1 #423 Traveling the Python Universe 26:49
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Topics covered in this episode: pysqlscribe A map of Python Rust, C++, and Python trends in jobs on Hacker News (February 2025) The features of Python's help() function Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: pysqlscribe A Python library intended to make building SQL queries in your code a bit easier. A Query object can be constructed using the QueryRegistry's get_builder featuring a dialect (e.g; "mysql", "postgres", "oracle"). Brian #2: A map of Python Cool visualization of dependencies in PyPI packages Even cooler visualization (linked from main article) Michael #3: Rust, C++, and Python trends in jobs on Hacker News (February 2025) Interesting supply and demand comparisons from at least on source. Brian #4: The features of Python's help() function Trey Hunner Don’t forget how useful and cool help() is. Extras Michael: Granian works with FastAPI again Joke: Computer engineer vs. Geologist…
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Topics covered in this episode: My 2025 uv-based Python Project Layout for Production Apps aiolimiter A peek into a possible future of Python in the browser Reloadium Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Brian #1: My 2025 uv-based Python Project Layout for Production Apps Hynek Schlawack Discusses uv, a simple pyproject.toml, a simple project layout, and uv.lock as the modern way to ditch requirements.txt files This is the starting video in a series, but it’s already very worthwhile Michael #2: aiolimiter An efficient implementation of a rate limiter for asyncio. This project implements the Leaky bucket algorithm , giving you precise control over the rate a code section can be entered. Brian #3: A peek into a possible future of Python in the browser a.k.a “Secret SPy Stuff” Łukasz Langa A peek at SPy, a new language for Python on the web. Michael #4: Reloadium Hot Reloading and Profiling for Python If you are a PyCharm user please check out Reloadium plugin See also: github.com/mikeckennedy/server-hot-reload Extras Brian: Making an alternate version of The Complete pytest Course Michael: Book: Zero Day: A Jeff Aiken Novel Warp terminal on Windows is out. PyCon Ed Summit announced. Joke: py programmer walks into a bar…
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Topics covered in this episode: httpdbg PyPI Now Supports iOS and Android Wheels for Mobile Python Development Arcade Game Platform goes 3.0 PEP 765 – Disallow return/break/continue that exit a finally block Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: httpdbg A tool for Python developers to easily debug the HTTP(S) client requests in a Python program. To use it, execute your program using the pyhttpdbg command instead of python and that's it. Open a browser to http://localhost:4909 to view the requests Brian #2: PyPI Now Supports iOS and Android Wheels for Mobile Python Development Sara Gooding “the Python Packaging Index (PyPI) has officially begun accepting and distributing pre-compiled binary packages, known as "wheels," for both iOS and Android platforms. “ Next up, “cibuildwheel Updates Are in Progress to Simplify iOS and Android Wheel Creation” Michael #3: Arcade Game Platform goes 3.0 via Maic Siemering This is our first major release since 2022. It keeps the beginner-friendly API while adding power and efficiency. Arcade now supports both standard OpenGL and ShaderToy ( www.shadertoy.com) a-shaders through a compatibility layer. Since 3.0 is a major release, the full list of changes is over in github.com/pythonarcade/arcade/blob/development/CHANGELOG.md Brian #4: PEP 765 – Disallow return/break/continue that exit a finally block Accepted for Python 3.14 I wouldn’t have thought to do this anyway, but it’s weird, so don’t. Will become a SyntaxWarning catchable by running with -We Extras Brian: Correction: Niki Tonsky was originator of “Pride Versioning” . Thanks Nikita Correction: Scheme is actually awesome. Brian is just a curmudgeon Also: pytest-rerunfailures is good for exposing flaky tests And apparently me being wrong was a great to get at least one person to blog more. Cheers Filip Łajszczak Michael: Tea pot follow up While you're right that some software actually had this implemented, Python does not. It's not an officially accepted HTTP status code, it was proposed in a 'joke' RFC. I guess Python - even though its name comes from the funny TV series Monty Python - is not so funny. httpx, your (or at least -my-) favorite HTTP module for python, does have the I_AM_A_TEAPOT constant. By the way, there are some HTTP status codes that changed their names in RFC 9110, for instance, http.HTTPStatus.UNPROCESSABLE_CONTENT (422, previously UNPROCESSABLE_ENTITY) Pride follow up fosstodon.org/@kytta/114034442981727301 Time to upgrade your mini ? Joke: How old is she ?…
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1 #420 90% Done in 50% of the Available Time 27:47
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Topics covered in this episode: PEP 772 – Packaging governance process Official Django MongoDB Backend Now Available in Public Preview Developer Philosophy Python 3.13.2 released Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Brian #1: PEP 772 – Packaging governance process draft, created 21-Jan, by Barry Warsaw, Deb Nicholson, Pradyun Gedam “As Python packaging has matured, several interrelated problems with the current way of managing the technical development, decision making and processes have become apparent.” “This PEP proposes a Python Packaging Council with broad authority over packaging standards, tools, and implementations. Like the Python Steering Council, the Packaging Council seeks to exercise this authority as rarely as possible; instead, they use this power to establish standard processes.” PEP discusses PyPA, Packaging-WG, Interoperability Standards, Python Steering Council, and Expectations of an elected Packaging Council A specification with Composition: 5 people Mandate, Responsibilities, Delegations, Process, Terms, etc. Michael #2: Official Django MongoDB Backend Now Available in Public Preview Over the last few years, Django developers have increasingly used MongoDB, presenting an opportunity for an official MongoDB-built Python package to make integrating both technologies as painless as possible. Features The ability to use Django models with confidence . Developers can use Django models to represent MongoDB documents, with support for Django forms, validations, and authentication. Django admin support . The package allows users to fire up the Django admin page as they normally would, with full support for migrations and database schema history. Native connecting from settings.py . Just as with any other database provider, developers can customize the database engine in settings.py to get MongoDB up and running. MongoDB-specific querying optimizations . Field lookups have been replaced with aggregation calls (aggregation stages and aggregate operators), JOIN operations are represented through $lookup, and it’s possible to build indexes right from Python. Limited advanced functionality . While still in development, the package already has support for time series, projections, and XOR operations. Aggregation pipeline support . Raw querying allows aggregation pipeline operators. Since aggregation is a superset of what traditional MongoDB Query API methods provide, it gives developers more functionality. Brian #3: Developer Philosophy by qntm Intended as “advice for junior developers about personal dev philosophy”, I think these are just great tips to keep in mind. The items Avoid, at all costs, arriving at a scenario where the ground-up rewrite starts to look attractive This is less about “don’t do rewrites”, but about noticing the warning signs ahead of time. Aim to be 90% done in 50% of the available time Great quote: “The first 90% of the job takes 90% of the time. The last 10% of the job takes the other 90% of the time.” Automate good practices Think about pathological data “Nobody cares about the golden path. Edge cases are our entire job .” Brian’s note: But also think about the happy path. Documenting and testing what you think of as the happy path is a testing start and helps others understand your idea of how things are supposed to work. There’s usually a simpler way to write it Write code to be testable It is insufficient for code to be provably correct; it should be obviously, visibly, trivially correct Brian’s note: Even if it’s obviously, visibly, trivially correct, it will still break. So test it anyway. Michael #4: Python 3.13.2 released Python 3.13’s second maintenance release. About 250 changes went into this update Also Python 3.12.9, Python 3.12’s ninth maintenance release already. Just 180 changes for 3.12, but it’s still worth upgrading. For us, it’s simply rebuilding our Docker base (i.e. —no-cache) with these lines: RUN curl -LsSf https://astral.sh/uv/install.sh | sh RUN --mount=type=cache,target=/root/.cache uv venv --python 3.13 /venv Extras Brian: Still thinking about pytest plugins a lot. The top pytest plugin list Has been updated for Feb Is starting to include things without “pytest” in the name, like Hypothesis and Syrupy. Eventually I’ll have to add “looking at trove classifiers” as part of the search, but for now, let me know if you’re favorite is missing. Includes T&C podcast episode links if I’ve covered it on the show. There’s 2 so far Michael: There's a new release of PyScript out. All the details are here: Highlight is new PyGame-CE support. Go play! PEP 2026 – Calendar versioning for Python rejected. :( PEP 759 – External Wheel Hosting withdrawn Joke: Pride Versioning…
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Topics covered in this episode: content-types package for better MIME types/Content-Type Wagtail 6.4 Build It Yourself Build backend popularity over time Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: content-types package for better MIME types/Content-Type It started with this comment from Raf . mimetypes — Map filenames to MIME types It is oddly missing very common types and varies by platform, OS install and other factors ( see this function ). Search around and found python-magic . Seems great but ImportError: failed to find libmagic. Check your installation → brew install libmagic magic.from_file("testdata/test.pdf") → FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'testdata/test.pdf' hmm So I had to create my own. Introducing content-types A Python library to map file extensions to MIME types. Unlike other libraries, this one does not try to access the file or parse the bytes of the file or stream. It just looks at the extension. Better support than mimetypes builtin. Brian #2: Wagtail 6.4 Release notes Lots of great updates, but I want to zoom in on background tasks. 6.4 includes django-tasks which is an available implementation of DEP 0014: Background workers This proposal is accepted and this thread includes a great talk from DjangoCon Europe 2024 Why is this cool? Even though django-tasks says it’s “under active development”, as long as you pin the version and test your behavior depending on this, it must be ready to use if wagtail is going for it. Don't you think? Michael #3: Build It Yourself from Armin Ronacher, sent in by Rafael Weingartner An excellent article pushing back on too many dependencies Maybe the advice of always prefer code reuse isn’t that great after all? It’s much much easier to solve small little problems these days due to AI. Take Postmark as an example. “It's time to have a new perspective: we should give kudos to engineers who write a small function themselves instead of hooking in a transitive web of crates. We should be suspicious of big crate graphs. Celebrated are the minimal dependencies, the humble function that just quietly does the job, the code that doesn't need to be touched for years because it was done right once.” - Armin Brian #4: Build backend popularity over time Bastian Venthur This is just for projects using pyproject.toml Apparently he did this last year as well , so we can see some trends. Results setuptools: ~50% (last year ~50%) poetry: ~30% (last year ~33%) hatchling: (percent not listed, but looks like 12-15%), (last year 10%) flit: ~5% (last year ~10%) other: (above flit now) Analysis: setuptools continues to grow in absolute numbers and maintain it’s percentage. poetry declining hatchling growing flit declining Brian commentary This is not surprising to me. I generally use hatchling for more control, and setuptools for simple projects. I think we might end up with mostly setuptools and hatchling in a couple years. Extras Brian: Test & Code Archive is now all episodes on one page Old method was 30 episodes per page For something completely different NameGrapher - popularity of US names No wonder I don’t meet a lot of kids named Brian Michael is #16 (#1 in 1950s - 1990s) Brian is #317 (#8 in 1970s) Joke: The long path to rejection .…
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Topics covered in this episode: In memoriam: Michael Foord 1974-2025 Valkey (Redis Replacement) 30 best practices for software development and testing mimetype.io Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Brian #1: In memoriam: Michael Foord 1974-2025 Guido van Rossum and others We’ve just lost Michael Foord this last weekend. From Guido: “Michael, an original thinker if there ever was one, started the tradition of having Language Summit events at PyCon, IIRC together with Barry Warsaw. He also wrote and contributed the influential mock library. … “ “PS. Feel free to post your own (positive) memories of meeting Michael – perhaps his children (10 and 13) will read them when they’re older and this thread might help them remember their father.” I’ve added my memories. I think this is a great (and small) way to honor him. My friend Michael - Nicholas Tolervey After 5 years of trying, I did get an interview with Michael. I wish I’d have gotten that followup. Test & Code episode with Michael, ep 145, “For those about to mock” Michael #2: Valkey (Redis Replacement) Thanks Calvin HP An open source (BSD) high-performance key/value datastore that supports a variety of workloads such as caching , message queues . Can act as a primary database . Valkey can run as either a standalone daemon or in a cluster , with options for replication and high availability . Valkey natively supports a rich collection of datatypes, including strings , numbers , hashes , lists , sets , sorted sets , bitmaps , hyperloglogs and more. You can operate on data structures in-place with an expressive collection of commands. Brian #3: 30 best practices for software development and testing Michael Foord (from 2017) Some gems 1 - YAGNI 6 - Unit tests test to the unit of behavior, not the unit of implementation. 8 - Code is the enemy: It can go wrong, and it needs maintenance. Write less code. Delete code. Don’t write code you don’t need. 15 - The more you have to mock out to test your code, the worse your code is. and so many more … Michael #4: mimetype.io I’m always forgetting content types! Also, shout out to httpstatuses.io Extras Brian: Python 1.0.0 released 31 years ago Michael: Python 3.14.0 alpha 4 is out Joke: Tea Time…
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1 #417 Bugs hide from the light 23:35
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Topics covered in this episode: LLM Catcher On PyPI Quarantine process RESPX Unpacking kwargs with custom objects Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by us! Support our work through: Our courses at Talk Python Training The Complete pytest Course Patreon Supporters Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list , we'll never share it. Michael #1: LLM Catcher via Pat Decker Large language model diagnostics for python applications and FastAPI applications . Features Exception diagnosis using LLMs (Ollama or OpenAI) Support for local LLMs through Ollama OpenAI integration for cloud-based models Multiple error handling approaches: Function decorators for automatic diagnosis Try/except blocks for manual control Global exception handler for unhandled errors from imported modules Both synchronous and asynchronous APIs Flexible configuration through environment variables or config file Brian #2: On PyPI Quarantine process Mike Fiedler Project Lifecycle Status - Quarantine in his "Safety & Security Engineer: First Year in Review post” Some more info now in Project Quarantine Reports of malware in a project kick things off Admins can now place a project in quarantine, allowing it to be unavailable for install, but still around for analysis. New process allows for packages to go back to normal if the report is false. However Since August, the Quarantine feature has been in use, with PyPI Admins marking ~140 reported projects as Quarantined. Of these, only a single project has exited Quarantine, others have been removed. Michael #3: RESPX Mock HTTPX with awesome request patterns and response side effects A simple, yet powerful , utility for mocking out the HTTPX , and HTTP Core , libraries. Start by patching HTTPX, using respx.mock, then add request routes to mock responses . For a neater pytest experience, RESPX includes a respx_mock fixture Brian #4: Unpacking kwargs with custom objects Rodrigo A class needs to have a keys() method that returns an iterable. a __getitem__() method for lookup Then double splat ** works on objects of that type. Extras Brian: A surprising thing about PyPI's BigQuery data - Hugovk Top PyPI Packages (and therefore also Top pytest Plugins ) uses a BigQuery dataset Has grabbed 30-day data of 4,000, then 5,000, then 8,000 packages. Turns out 531,022 packages (amount returned when limit set to a million) is the same cost. So…. hoping future updates to these “Top …” pages will have way more data. Also, was planning on recording a Test & Code episode on pytest-cov today, but haven’t yet. Hopefully at least a couple of new episodes this week. Finally updated pythontest.com with BlueSky links on home page and contact page. Michael: Follow up from Owen ( uv-secure ): Thanks for the multiple shout outs! uv-secure just uses the PyPi json API at present to query package vulnerabilities (same as default source for pip audit). I do smash it asynchronously for all dependencies at once... but it still takes a few seconds. Joke: Bugs hide from the light !…
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Topics covered in this episode: Terminals & Shells Winloop : An Alternative library for uvloop compatibility with windows Ruff & uv uv-secure Extras Joke See the full show notes for this episode on the website at pythonbytes.fm/416
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1 #415 Just put the fries in the bag bro 32:59
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Topics covered in this episode: dbos-transact-py Typed Python in 2024: Well adopted, yet usability challenges persist RightTyper Lazy self-installing Python scripts with uv Extras Joke See the full show notes for this episode on the website at pythonbytes.fm/415
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1 #414 Because we are not monsters 29:45
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Topics covered in this episode: New project to shorten django-admin to django because we are not monsters django-unicorn : The magical reactive component framework for Django Testing some tidbits The State of Python 2024 article Extras Joke See the full show notes for this episode on the website at pythonbytes.fm/414…
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1 #413 python-build-standalone finds a home 30:39
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Topics covered in this episode: jiter A new home for python-build-standalone moka-py uv: An In-Depth Guide Extras Joke See the full show notes for this episode on the website at pythonbytes.fm/413
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