#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity

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Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain.

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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(09:26) - Elon Musk
(12:42) - Telepathy
(19:22) - Power of human mind
(23:49) - Future of Neuralink
(29:04) - Ayahuasca
(38:33) - Merging with AI
(43:21) - xAI
(45:34) - Optimus
(52:24) - Elon's approach to problem-solving
(1:09:59) - History and geopolitics
(1:14:30) - Lessons of history
(1:18:49) - Collapse of empires
(1:26:32) - Time
(1:29:14) - Aliens and curiosity
(1:36:48) - DJ Seo
(1:44:57) - Neural dust
(1:51:40) - History of brain–computer interface
(1:59:44) - Biophysics of neural interfaces
(2:10:12) - How Neuralink works
(2:16:03) - Lex with Neuralink implant
(2:36:01) - Digital telepathy
(2:47:03) - Retracted threads
(2:52:38) - Vertical integration
(2:59:32) - Safety
(3:09:27) - Upgrades
(3:18:30) - Future capabilities
(3:47:46) - Matthew MacDougall
(3:53:35) - Neuroscience
(4:00:44) - Neurosurgery
(4:11:48) - Neuralink surgery
(4:30:57) - Brain surgery details
(4:46:40) - Implanting Neuralink on self
(5:02:34) - Life and death
(5:11:54) - Consciousness
(5:14:48) - Bliss Chapman
(5:28:04) - Neural signal
(5:34:56) - Latency
(5:39:36) - Neuralink app
(5:44:17) - Intention vs action
(5:55:31) - Calibration
(6:05:03) - Webgrid
(6:28:05) - Neural decoder
(6:48:40) - Future improvements
(6:57:36) - Noland Arbaugh
(6:57:45) - Becoming paralyzed
(7:11:20) - First Neuralink human participant
(7:15:21) - Day of surgery
(7:33:08) - Moving mouse with brain
(7:58:27) - Webgrid
(8:06:28) - Retracted threads
(8:14:53) - App improvements
(8:21:38) - Gaming
(8:32:36) - Future Neuralink capabilities
(8:35:31) - Controlling Optimus robot
(8:39:53) - God