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Ep74: 是时候聊聊 UK R&B了!

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“UK R&B 在英国本地并不卖座”(‘The hardest music to sell in the UK’),这个观点经常伴随着 UK R&B 这一风格的讨论,不少文化/音乐媒体都一本正经地表达过这个观察,非得细究一下他们受欢迎的市场——好像还真的不在本地,都是在美国!

这个观点确实如此吗?本期节目我们试着聊一聊这个话题,但我们并不认为这个观点以及现象是一个“问题”,它仅仅是再次强调了,英国音乐的土壤和来源与美国传统流行乐/黑人音乐的不同。

R&B 在英国并不卖座,因为英国的文化环境就是与美国不同——如果我们只用美国传统黑人音乐的审美来欣赏的话。但深挖下去,就会发现 UK 音乐的特色,以及与美国流行音乐互相影响的趣味。

本期主要目的还是分享一下我们喜欢的 UK 音乐,尤其是那些在主流音乐中不太常见或是已经不容易被提及的 hidden gems. 请不要将讨论所产生的观点作为权威乐评或某种严肃理论看待。

本期所聊的 R&B 音乐是广义上的 Rhythm & Blues,也就是在美国发展而来的传统黑人音乐为根的 R&B,具体释义可回顾这一期:Ep53: All About R&B pt.1

我和老林不仅会分享一些传统意义上的 R&B/Soul,也有与这类风格和文化互相影响渗透的Dance, UK Street Soul 等 UK 特色的音乐。

*我们聊的大部分音乐是1980s 之后的,1980s 之前UK R&B 有几个阶段也会提及:

1960s: British Invasion

Late 1960s: Northern Soul

Late 1970s: Lovers Rock

Mid 1980s - Early 1990s: UK Street Soul (Discogs 关于 UK Street Soul 的介绍https://www.discogs.com/style/uk%20street%20soul

Episode Playlist:

M People - “Inner City Cruise”

Cymande - “Dove”

Loose Ends - “Hangin' On A String”

Loose Ends - “Don't You Ever (Try To Change Me)”

Soul Ⅱ Soul - “Move Me No Mountain”

M People - “Colour My lIfe”

Sade - “Tar Baby”

The Style Council - “Shout To The Top (USA Remix)”

Julia Fordham - “Porcelain”

Seal - “Crazy”

Seal - “Don’t Cry”

Seal - “Human Beings”

Ocean - “Don't Stand There”

Lisa Stansfield - “Mighty Love”

Lisa Stansfield - “All Around The World”

All Saints - “Rock Steady (Satrip)”

Tasmin Archer -“Sleeping Satellite”

Mark Morrison - “Return of the Mack”

Damage - “Ghetto Romance”

Shola Ama - “You Might Need Somebody”

Floetry - “Say Yes”

Floetry ft. Common - “SupaStar”

Sananda Maitreya - “Wishing Well”

Blood Orange - “Augustine”

Sault - “Wildfire”

Cleo Sol - “One”

Michael Kiwanuka - “Cold Little Heart”

Sault- “Glory”

👉我和老林的 UK R&B/Soul YouTube Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXHoM2kA0oKy1n0R2HHK3-ZZ4CIdgWHmR

👉非常值得一听的 UK Street Soul Playlist;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-cpnuDxp45K5IXsBy8VzhA8-MGYdpIKU

👩‍💻你还可以回顾以下这些节目:

Ep66: 是时候聊聊 UK Garage 了!

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep66-uk-garage

Ep50: 牙买加音乐特辑pt.3 sound system 如何塑造 UK sound

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep50-pt3-sound-system-uk-sound-575

Ep51: 牙买加音乐特辑pt.4 从Dub到UK Club,breakbeat 走到黑

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep51-pt4-dubuk-clubbreakbeat-71e

🔗推荐延伸阅读:

‘The hardest music to sell in the UK’: why is British R&B being ignored?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/feb/10/hardest-music-to-sell-in-uk-why-is-british-r-and-b-being-ignored

9 seminal UK R&B songs that changed the genre

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5N39WDTnlVFzTx9dr8V00Fn/9-seminal-uk-r-b-songs-that-changed-the-genre

Has R&B Ever Had A Place In The UK?

https://industryme.co.uk/has-rb-ever-had-a-place-in-the-uk/

British R&B Is Thriving. Why Is It Being Ignored?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/british-r-and-b-being-ignored-artists-to-watch/

Hammer Time Newsletter & 播客 Substack 地址: hidesssss.substack.com

通过RSS订阅播客:https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/1282982.rss

给主播写信:sonicelsa@gmail.com

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hidesssss.substack.com

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“UK R&B 在英国本地并不卖座”(‘The hardest music to sell in the UK’),这个观点经常伴随着 UK R&B 这一风格的讨论,不少文化/音乐媒体都一本正经地表达过这个观察,非得细究一下他们受欢迎的市场——好像还真的不在本地,都是在美国!

这个观点确实如此吗?本期节目我们试着聊一聊这个话题,但我们并不认为这个观点以及现象是一个“问题”,它仅仅是再次强调了,英国音乐的土壤和来源与美国传统流行乐/黑人音乐的不同。

R&B 在英国并不卖座,因为英国的文化环境就是与美国不同——如果我们只用美国传统黑人音乐的审美来欣赏的话。但深挖下去,就会发现 UK 音乐的特色,以及与美国流行音乐互相影响的趣味。

本期主要目的还是分享一下我们喜欢的 UK 音乐,尤其是那些在主流音乐中不太常见或是已经不容易被提及的 hidden gems. 请不要将讨论所产生的观点作为权威乐评或某种严肃理论看待。

本期所聊的 R&B 音乐是广义上的 Rhythm & Blues,也就是在美国发展而来的传统黑人音乐为根的 R&B,具体释义可回顾这一期:Ep53: All About R&B pt.1

我和老林不仅会分享一些传统意义上的 R&B/Soul,也有与这类风格和文化互相影响渗透的Dance, UK Street Soul 等 UK 特色的音乐。

*我们聊的大部分音乐是1980s 之后的,1980s 之前UK R&B 有几个阶段也会提及:

1960s: British Invasion

Late 1960s: Northern Soul

Late 1970s: Lovers Rock

Mid 1980s - Early 1990s: UK Street Soul (Discogs 关于 UK Street Soul 的介绍https://www.discogs.com/style/uk%20street%20soul

Episode Playlist:

M People - “Inner City Cruise”

Cymande - “Dove”

Loose Ends - “Hangin' On A String”

Loose Ends - “Don't You Ever (Try To Change Me)”

Soul Ⅱ Soul - “Move Me No Mountain”

M People - “Colour My lIfe”

Sade - “Tar Baby”

The Style Council - “Shout To The Top (USA Remix)”

Julia Fordham - “Porcelain”

Seal - “Crazy”

Seal - “Don’t Cry”

Seal - “Human Beings”

Ocean - “Don't Stand There”

Lisa Stansfield - “Mighty Love”

Lisa Stansfield - “All Around The World”

All Saints - “Rock Steady (Satrip)”

Tasmin Archer -“Sleeping Satellite”

Mark Morrison - “Return of the Mack”

Damage - “Ghetto Romance”

Shola Ama - “You Might Need Somebody”

Floetry - “Say Yes”

Floetry ft. Common - “SupaStar”

Sananda Maitreya - “Wishing Well”

Blood Orange - “Augustine”

Sault - “Wildfire”

Cleo Sol - “One”

Michael Kiwanuka - “Cold Little Heart”

Sault- “Glory”

👉我和老林的 UK R&B/Soul YouTube Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXHoM2kA0oKy1n0R2HHK3-ZZ4CIdgWHmR

👉非常值得一听的 UK Street Soul Playlist;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-cpnuDxp45K5IXsBy8VzhA8-MGYdpIKU

👩‍💻你还可以回顾以下这些节目:

Ep66: 是时候聊聊 UK Garage 了!

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep66-uk-garage

Ep50: 牙买加音乐特辑pt.3 sound system 如何塑造 UK sound

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep50-pt3-sound-system-uk-sound-575

Ep51: 牙买加音乐特辑pt.4 从Dub到UK Club,breakbeat 走到黑

https://hidesssss.substack.com/p/ep51-pt4-dubuk-clubbreakbeat-71e

🔗推荐延伸阅读:

‘The hardest music to sell in the UK’: why is British R&B being ignored?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/feb/10/hardest-music-to-sell-in-uk-why-is-british-r-and-b-being-ignored

9 seminal UK R&B songs that changed the genre

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5N39WDTnlVFzTx9dr8V00Fn/9-seminal-uk-r-b-songs-that-changed-the-genre

Has R&B Ever Had A Place In The UK?

https://industryme.co.uk/has-rb-ever-had-a-place-in-the-uk/

British R&B Is Thriving. Why Is It Being Ignored?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/british-r-and-b-being-ignored-artists-to-watch/

Hammer Time Newsletter & 播客 Substack 地址: hidesssss.substack.com

通过RSS订阅播客:https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/1282982.rss

给主播写信:sonicelsa@gmail.com

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hidesssss.substack.com

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