Nocturnal Nookie: Demonic Desires of Incubi & Succubi

Fringe Beyond Limits

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Music.

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Welcome to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.

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She beat you to it. She beat you to it. I know, but she knows what it feels

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like now. It feels good, doesn't it?

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It's your little 20-second meditation. Yeah, it is. It is. We should all do

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it at the same time next time.

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So, how are you guys doing? Doing all right.

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Yeah i'm trying to fix this mic to get to where i i you gotta find the spot

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yeah you're futzing with it i am i am flutzing a little bit so that's my bad

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yeah all right so everyone is good today yeah yeah beautiful fall day it is

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and we're locked up in here and with me,

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it's cold dimly lit room with dead bolts 13 chains on the door i still think

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it's wrong that he's the one that's next to the door and we're like on the corner and off the side.

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Yeah, and what you guys didn't notice is that you're now shackled to the table.

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Damn it. Yeah. The door's locked from the inside. You can't get out.

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How are you going to get out?

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I just said the door's locked from the inside. Guess what that means?

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We can unlock it from in here.

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That's the joke. I got the things mixed up in my head. No, no,

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you didn't. Yes, I did. You got nothing. Yeah, no, I listened to it incorrectly.

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You listen to it incorrectly? Yeah.

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Oh, wow. We have so many brie-isms. It's not even funny. I know.

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I've ran out of room on my spreadsheet.

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You get 10,000 rows and 10,000 columns, and I filled them all up. You filled them all up.

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Oh, man. Only after, like, what, 25 episodes? Yeah.

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Something like that. I can't believe it's been that long already.

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It seems like we just started. Kind of. But it also feels like forever.

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Well, it does, because... We had so many, you know, we had all of June that

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we didn't do anything. Yeah.

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Because we had to record ahead because you two were on your...

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Galley event in the world. Yeah. Where the hell you guys were. We were having a life.

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I don't know what that's about. Yeah. You're missing out. Am I?

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Yeah. I don't know about that. Things to be lived.

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Yeah? I don't know either.

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I'm just going to exist. Is that okay?

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Yeah. That's perfectly fine. Yeah. All right. If that's what you want to do.

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That's not what I want to do. but that's what's gonna happen, so.

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All right. So we have what? Things that keep you up at night? Mm-hmm. Yeah? Yes, sir.

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Tell you what. Since mine is a little bland and a little different,

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I don't think, you know, it's more of a what would you do type of scenario.

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I'll go first this time. Okay.

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Yeah. All right. So there is a trolley.

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Okay. It's out of control. It's headed your way.

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And are you gonna throw a math problem at me no i'm

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not no if one trolley is going and it's

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like well let me get my calculator right five miles an hour it leaves san diego

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by 9 40 a.m no not at all so it's a out of control trolley right it's headed

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your way up ahead in the tracks of the railway branch into two different paths

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on the first track there's a group of five people,

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On the other track, they're just one person.

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You have a switch that you can throw to direct it one way or the other.

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If the trolley stays on the track it's on, it will hit and kill the five people.

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If you switch it, it will switch it to the second rail and only kill one person.

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What would you do? So I get to choose the people on the track.

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You have control of the switch. I honestly think I would do the one just because

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thinking about it, killing one and rather than killing five would put less on

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my conscious of like I killed one person.

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Like if I kill five, I would have been like even more hysterical.

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But you're not the reason that the trolley is out of control.

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No, I'm just saying like if I was a person like on the trolley, like. Right.

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No, but you're not. You're not. You're not on the trolley. So that's why I would

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judge it on like how would I feel?

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And then like I would. Right. But what I'm saying is you have control. Oh, I know.

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But the thing is even the fact that you have controls you'll think that like.

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You're part of responsibility because a lot of people think that even though

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you're not the one driving the trolley okay that's fine i'm just trying to get a you know better,

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answer from you yeah no that's what you're gonna get that's right i'm okay with

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it miss lynette what would you

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do i'm thinking we'll be here for a while i know frank what would you do,

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i go back and forth i'm i'm not exactly sure because i would like to say that

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i wouldn't because if if it's meant to be that these five people die who am i to switch their fate,

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but at the same time i i would rather have one person die than five people die so like,

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right that's exactly what i've been yeah you know like like who am i to change

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someone's fate so the thing is but if you're the one in control of pulling that

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level love lover i can't even talk Right now. Like never.

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But you're the one in control of what direction ends up going.

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How do you know that you're not one creating that faith?

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So if you change it, how do you know if it's not the actual faith of the one person?

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Because that would be my fate to decide which... Which will make it their faith.

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So technically it might not be the faith of the five people.

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It could be the faith of the one person. In all honesty, I don't think faith

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has anything to do with this. I think you're trying to say fate.

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Faith. No, fate. Faith. Fate. It's someone's fate, not somebody's fate.

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You knew what I was saying. No, nobody knew.

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But I let it go the first couple of times, and then you continued on,

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and I had to address it. Okay, Mr. Cybertooth.

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Dude, it's a Cybertooth. And Homesteed. Homesteed. Homesteed. It's a Homesteed.

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I don't know what English you guys speak, but you know.

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But again, if I'm going to take it from where I wasn't there,

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it would hit the five people.

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If everything went as accordingly, it would hit the five people.

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So hopefully you're not the one programming AI or maybe you should for Elon's

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self-driving vehicles.

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I should. I would have them crash. Whatever will be, will be.

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I would have them just go to Elon Musk's house and crash into the house.

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So that's what I would do. All right. Yeah. so

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that was mine nice yeah yeah so

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who wants to go next i can go and

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you're gonna be so proud of me i am i did a thing what

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you did she did a thing i did a movie

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you did a movie i did a movie and it made me think

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all night oh my gosh i'm sorry and it's one of the movies

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that you keep talking about oh what movie nefarious yeah

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i was gonna recommend us all getting together for halloween and watching it

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but that's okay we don't we still can because the third person of this podcast

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hasn't watched it nope maybe her faith would be watching the movie faith well

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it actually kind of goes into the thought that i was thinking with this movie

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the faith but it got me to thinking.

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When somebody says god for the most part and depending on your religion you're

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you're still the majority of people think of god is the good guy right and the

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devil is the bad guy right,

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but what if god really was

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the bad guy yeah the devil

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really was the good guy there's a whole conspiracy theory about that that's

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interesting so it just like sent me down like thought rabbit holes of okay so

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we've been indoctored by religions to do xyz follow xyz but what if we've all

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been brainwashed to follow the wrong entity.

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Yeah. So there is a whole conspiracy theory that dives deep into that,

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that a lot of the books that were excluded from the Bible actually speak to that,

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to where the serpent in the garden of Eden was actually the good guy and the AKA God was the bad guy.

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There's a whole, very interesting, very interesting.

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If you dive into it from an open mind and you try not to use the...

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The dogmatic things that we've all

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been indocumented into it holds some

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water actually a lot of water and is makes it

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for an interesting thought experiment yeah

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well just i you're right

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and it reminds me when we did the columbus day episode too

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where you're like have i been lied to do i

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believe like you just question your whole thought process

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what if i don't know it's just right no 100 i

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would love to do maybe an episode on that that would be fun yeah we can

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and that might upset people but you don't have to listen to that

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episode you guys can skip that one and just another theory

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it's just another theory that's all you're absolutely right so yeah no that's

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a that's a great yeah and the act the actor in that movie who played nefarious

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phenomenal awesome did i not tell you that yeah he was great the lawyer guy

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or whatever or psychiatrist guy not so much yeah he reminded me of your husband.

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A little bit not a lot like a little bit like i saw like like the way he would

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say something like like facial expressions like the way he would say something

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like oh that's a little like uh like it was just you know that they're yeah

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yeah you know what i'm saying yeah,

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it was funny that that uh that's awesome that

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you did a movie i'm happy i told you it was really really good it was good yeah

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so i guess last and least brie thanks appreciate it anytime time so a little

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play back to her like in the columbus day and indigenous people day.

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With lynette's when she was talking about like the light came on in her

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room so with the

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light and whole sleeping thing lately and

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it's always been bothering me every time it happens like i kind of just like

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stay there like sleeping like what the heck was that i'll close

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my eyes and i will see if lights flashing or

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all of a sudden like one big light just goes on you know

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like when you have your eyes shut lights go on you

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kind of have like that orange hue yeah yeah through your eyelid yeah i get that

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and then i and i open my eyes but it's completely dark we have nightshades so

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it's completely dark like blacked out not nobody coming anywhere i look everywhere

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and like where the heck is this coming from like my phone's not even it's face down there's nothing,

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it's like i always try to figure out like it bugs me maybe you

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have a visitor that's what like i'm wondering is this something supernatural or

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paranormal or something i don't think it's supernatural i think it's aliens

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interesting well there there is the go on with your alien no go ahead well your

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eyes the cones and rods in your eyes can go off and create spots even when your

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eyes are closed with light.

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For real. It's a thing. Have you ever drank too much and you start seeing like

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lights flashing or anything like that?

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I never drink too much. You never drink too much? No, I always drink just enough.

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Have you ever allegedly drank too much? I've never allegedly drank.

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I've always drank in just enough for the occasion.

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Sometimes the occasion is to drink too much.

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But usually those lights are white. So if you're seeing orange,

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meaning the lights coming externally, then it might not be your eyes, neurons firing.

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But yeah, I get that like orange hue. Yeah.

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And i'm like what the heck and i'm like looking i'm like i'm facing the wall,

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and there's no light at all like where is this coming maybe the aliens or the

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ghosts are having a rave and get the lights going yeah and it's like i'm not

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even like sleeping yet either like i literally shut my eyes trying to fall asleep

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and all of a sudden it's just right there and i'm like what the heck and i was

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my eyes day does it stay on or does it like no it's like,

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it's like someone just like went flash and then turned off

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okay yeah it's really weird i don't

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understand it and that keeps you up in it yeah because i'm like

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i want to know what what it is you should ask out loud you should

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ask you should phone start asking questions i would start

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doing it and my husband be like huh what who's here what are you trying to tell

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me listen you're gonna ask and he's gonna say naked that too he always says

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that at like you know how some people like you will say something like a phrase

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that you know what she said or in bed yeah.

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Yeah yeah and he does you say something goes naked he goes naked yeah

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because he'd be like hey man do you want to run to the store naked you know

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like dude i'm gonna hit you i'm gonna go take

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a shower naked i'm like yeah and how else am

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i gonna take a shower yeah but he

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does it i'm like i it's like it's like you don't think maybe he has a

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tourette no he doesn't no he just

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does might have not enough chromosomes that's what

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i think naked naked

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yes not enough chromosomes can we tell this story and just say naked at the

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end of each of your sentences okay yeah let's do that because that'll get boring

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real real oh or it might fit it might fit the stage topic naked will fit naked

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okay that is annoying yeah i told you,

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try living with it 24 hours a day he should

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mix it up and say like nude or bare

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ass or i can't i cannot in a birthday suit i i cannot give him that much credit

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to being that creative well maybe if he ever listens to our episodes he'll get

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oh he does oh he does he does good for him yeah he complained he complained

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a couple times like you guys are talking about me so much Well,

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maybe he stopped listening.

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No, no, he's caught up. No, he likes listening, yeah. Yeah. And he likes it when we make fun of him.

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Add more words to your vocabulary. Repertoire. Repertoire.

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Brian, I will hit you. Hopefully this episode scares the poop meter for now. Ooh.

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Yeah, Brian, we're going to need a poop meter. No, he might actually want this. Oh.

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But he'd also be scared and belly poop at the same time. Just saying. He may want the incubus.

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Because he also likes to talk about buttholes all the time. So, you know. Yeah.

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So, since you spoiled it. No. What are we talking about, Brink?

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What are we talking about? We're talking about incubus and succubus.

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You've been waiting to do this episode. Dude, I did this research like in August. Yeah.

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And we finally put it together. Well, thanks for being patient.

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Oh, I'm good with that. Well, when we first did this episode and you put it

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on our little sheet, it looked like blob.

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And some people have OCD when it comes to things.

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They had to fix it. I had to fix your spreadsheet. It was pretty.

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Oh, listen. That's the only reason why I'm on this podcast. To keep you organized.

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This is true. You did good research. It was just a chaotic mess.

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Monette, you're on this podcast to keep me organized. Yeah. Brianna,

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you're on this podcast to make me look smart.

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You're welcome. Yep. You do a really good job. I think Brianna does a better job. She's the MVP.

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Most valuable podcaster yeah there we go see look at me.

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All right i did i looked at her you know which is great content for a podcast,

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all right so let's just jump right into this mess all right

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so if you've ever woken up in the middle of the night feeling as

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though you're being crushed by a demonic being you may have just experienced

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what's called the incubus phenomenon and attacked by a male demon its female

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counterpart the succubus and they usually attack men the phenomenon,

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is in many ways the quintessential nightmare for centuries the incubus demon

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has been said to haunt sleepers inspiring tales and traditional folklore as

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well as works of art now a new meta-analysis from the netherlands suggests that

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this frightening phenomenon,

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may be more common than previously thought and that it should be taken more

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seriously by psychiatrists and psychologists who hear such accounts from their patients. Naked.

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Birthday suit. Nude. Good Lord.

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In the meta-analysis, which was published in November in the Journal of Frontiers

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in Psychiatry, the researchers looked at 13 studies of the incubus phenomenon

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that included nearly 1,800 people.

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The different studies came from various countries, including Canada,

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the United States, China, Japan, Italy, and Mexico.

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The researchers found that over 1 in 10 people, or 11% of the general population,

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will experience the incubus phenomenon in their lifetimes.

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In certain groups, the odds of encountering an incubus or succubus are higher.

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People with psychiatric disorders, as well as among refugees and students,

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the odds of experiencing the incubus phenomenon are as high as 41%.

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Analysis also found that people who sleep on their backs are more likely to

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experience this phenomenon.

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Alcohol consumption and irregular

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sleeping patterns also make an incubus-psychubus visit more probable.

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Though the frightening experience frequently gets dismissed as just a bad dream,

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researchers noted that the incubus phenomenon can lead to additional problems

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including anxiety, difficulty sleeping due to fear, and even delusional disorder,

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a mental illness akin to schizophrenia.

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In the meta-analysis, the researchers speculate a possible link between the

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incubus-succubus phenomenon and sudden unexpected death syndrome,

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a situation in which a healthy person inexplicably dies in his or her sleep.

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The analysis also found that the form of the incubus-succubus figure and how

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people react to it can be varied based on the person's cultural background.

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So where do the concept of incubi and succubi originate from? Do you guys know?

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A story from a long time ago.

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She's the brainy one.

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The concept of the incubus has ancient roots tracing back to various mythologies

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and folklore from around the world.

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The late Latin word incubus, a nightmare induced by a demon,

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was derived from Latin incubo, nightmare, what lies down on whilst one sleeps,

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and further from incubati,

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to lie upon or to hatch.

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Historically, incubi are male demons believed to pray on women,

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often during sleep, to engage in sexual activities.

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I think I'm going to start dressing up like a woman to go to bed. Okay. Yeah.

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Sleep on your back? Sleep on my back. I mean, here he goes to become a student.

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And he's got sleeping issues, so. I do. I do have a lot of sleeping issues.

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So one of the earliest references to an incubus-like entity comes from ancient

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Mesopotamian mythology in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

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The demon Lilitu is mentioned

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a is mentioned a precursor to the succubus

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associated with the night and predatory sexual behavior Lilitu's

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male counterpart Ardot Lili is often

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considered an early version of the incubus in ancient Greece the concept of

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the incubus was intertwined with the idea of sleep paralysis and night terrors

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the Greeks had stories of the god Pan who was said to visit women in their dreams and seduce them.

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Similarly, the Romans had tales of fauns and satires, creatures that would sexually

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prey upon sleeping women.

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The incubus as we recognize it today was solidified in medieval European folklore.

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During this period, the church played a significant role in shaping the narrative

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around incubi, portraying them as demonic entities sent by Satan to corrupt and torment humans.

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They are often used to explain unexplainable pregnancies or as a way to shame

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women who claim to have had nocturnal visitations.

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Okay, real question.

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What if Jesus. You were close. I was thinking something similar. Keep going.

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Oh, was from an incubator relationship. Yes.

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That is what I was thinking. Yeah. That's interesting to think about.

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And what if it was an angel?

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Right. Like a bad angel, but a good angel, going back to my thought of which

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one's right and which one's wrong.

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Right. That's exactly where I was headed for that. I like this.

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I like this thinking. You know, like, like, right.

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Yeah. So. Mind blown.

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Or no what if it was like a bad angel aka

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from the good guy right and that's why his

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preaching doesn't really align that well

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with the old testament hmm you know

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interesting yeah because he talks about you know love and

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forgiveness and all that where the old

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testament was you can you can take slaves you

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can you know have sex with minors or

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like the book of job and i'm gonna to punish you right 10

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ways a sunday i'm gonna have a bet with you yeah you know

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so the devil went down to georgia no that

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was i know i know but it's also it's

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also it's a great song yeah did you ever hear the rap song the devil came to

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chicago no no look at that look that up that's that's actually fun so incubi

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are typically depicted as male demons with certain human-like features however

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their appearances can vary widely across different cultures and eras,

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Common characteristics include.

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They're often described as incredibly attractive using their allure to seduce their victims.

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Some depictions include demonic features such as horns, wings,

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or a tail. I bet they have more than one tail.

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Maybe. In medieval art, they are sometimes shown as monstrous creatures with grotesque features.

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Incubi possess the ability to enter dreams and manipulate them.

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They can induce illusions, making their presence seem more appealing or less

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threatening. They are also known to cause sleep paralysis, where the victims

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feel an oppressive weight on their chest and is unable to move or scream.

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Incubi are cunning, manipulative, and relentless. They are driven by an insatiable

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desire for sexual encounters with humans.

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They often exploit human vulnerabilities, such as loneliness or repressed desires

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to gain control over their victims.

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Incubi. Oops, I was just... too much. Sorry.

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Good job. I know. The primary method through which an incubus affects humans

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is by invading their dreams or causing sleep paralysis.

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Victims often report experiencing nightmares and disturbing dreams.

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Incubi can induce vivid and often disturbing sexual dreams or hallucinations.

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These dreams can be highly realistic, leading the victim to believe they are

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genuinely experiencing the events.

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Sleep paralysis. Many victims report waking up in the middle of the night unable

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to move in a heavy weight on their chest and a sense of an evil presence in the room.

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Prolonged encounters with an incubus can lead to physical symptoms such as fatigue,

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muscle weakness, and unexplained bruises or scratches on the body.

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Repeated encounters can result in severe psychological issues,

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including anxiety, depression, and a pervasive sense of fear or paranoia.

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Huh. what keep going the victims may also.

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Victims may also experience feelings of shame or guilt particularly in cultures

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where discussions about sexual experiences are taboo so what was your aha moment

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yeah oh the first one came with sure unexplained bruises and scratches.

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Like the unexplained bruises and scratches and then like it's like psychological issues.

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And i was like oh i i'm happy to see that you can laugh about these things for

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yourself yeah all right kind of it's like a laugh i don't know whether to be

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terrified or not So I will say this story time.

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My mother, when she was pregnant with me, this happened once and only once and

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only when she was pregnant with me,

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she woke up in the middle of the night, couldn't move and felt a weight on her chest.

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When she looked, it looked

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like she had like a demon goblin

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type entity sitting on her chest

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oh that's creepy and she started praying and

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after a minute it was gone and she could move again that only

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happened once in her life that is crazy and

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only when she was pregnant with me that explains a lot all right you know but

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weird well i've had that happen to me twice but i was not pregnant with you

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oh you weren't i mean would you want to be pregnant with me no i don't think so I think I'm good.

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I mean, the worst part was me probably, you know, Benjamin buttoning all the

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way back down to a baby. Benjamin buttoning.

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And then like doing the whole reverse birth thing back inside. Yeah, right?

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Is that the sound it makes?

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That's fantastic.

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I'd like to get that in a loop somewhere.

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Identifying the presence of an incubus involves recognizing several key signs and symptoms.

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Particularly those with a sexual or predatory theme, victims may experience

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recurring dreams involving a male figure who engages in sexual activities with them.

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The sensation of being awake but unable to move, often accompanied by a sense

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of pressure on the chest and an overwhelming feeling of dread.

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Bruises, scratches, or other marks that appear overnight without any apparent cause.

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Persistent fatigue and a decline in overall well-being despite adequate rest.

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Victims may also experience a general sense of unease or fear, particularly at night.

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I think Brie had an aha moment. I think she's hit like- I'm getting scared here.

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I think she's being haunted by incubies. Do you think that's what the actual

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flashes are that I'm seeing?

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Oh, maybe that's- Maybe they're trying to seduce you. Or the flashes,

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I guess one better, is just the money shot.

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Oh, geez. Right in the eye.

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And it makes sense because they're fiery red, but her eyes are closed.

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They come off as an orange hue.

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Oh my goodness. Oh man, it's creepy.

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Yeah. Just wake up with random scratches.

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Clean your face in the morning. Would you just wash it please?

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Very few times the scratches, but mainly always bruises. And I don't know how

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I get them. Cause I'm looking at like where they're positioned.

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And I'm like, how, like, I don't know what I did. There was a how to get bruised

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there like I have to where are they positioned?

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The most current one it's like right in the inner part of my arm and I don't

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even know how they got there I thought she was gonna say thigh.

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I thought she was too. Yeah, all right.

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I Have gotten some on my legs before too and I'm like, oh I'm like,

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I've never stubbed anything that if it hit anything now. I don't know where that came from.

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No, you're right You've never stubbed anything except for Brian. Oh.

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Jesus christ this is the weirdest episode all

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right all right so we're gonna jump into succubus next yep my favorite the term

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succubus comes from the latin word succuba meaning strumpet or prostitute oh

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the succubus is a demon that appears in female forms to seduce men and engage

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in sexual activities with them,

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often draining their life force in the process.

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Succubi have been a part of various mythologies and folklores throughout history.

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In ancient Sumerian mythology, Lilith is often considered one of the earliest

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examples of a succubus, which is depicted as a night demon who preys upon men,

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especially those who sleep alone. I want to sleep alone.

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She's just going to boot Missio. Missio, you need to get out of the house.

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No, I'll wait for her to fall asleep and then I'll just go in the other bedroom.

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In medieval Europe, the succubus was often portrayed as a demon sent by Satan

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to corrupt and tempt men.

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The church warned against the dangers of succubi, suggesting that these demons

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would not only lead men astray, but also steal their souls.

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This fear was exacerbated by the belief that succubi could cause nocturnal emissions,

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which were seen as sinful and unnatural. So stupid.

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Succubi are typically depicted as suddenly beautiful women

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with an irresistible allure their appearance can be

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highly variable with some common traits

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including described as having an almost

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supernatural beauty designed to lure their victims they

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can shape shift and manipulate their appearance to appeal to the desires of

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their victims despite their beauty they often have demonic features such as

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wings claws or glowing eyes no no guys no tails here succubi possess the ability

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to enter dreams and manipulate them, much like Incubi.

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They can create illusions and control the dreamscape to seduce their victims.

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They are also known to drain their life force or energy of their victims during sexual encounters.

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The succubi are seductive, manipulative, and relentless in their pursuit of sexual encounters.

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They are adept at exploiting human weaknesses and desires, using their charm

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and beauty to ensnare their victims.

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They are often portrayed as possessing a malevolent intelligence capable of

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intricate deceptions and psychological manipulation.

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Why do you guys get pretty demons and we get scary demons?

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I think it's because we need beauty to be able to form, perform,

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and you guys just like the danger. That's why you guys always go after bad boys.

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Okay. I don't know.

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Well, I can understand the beauty for guys, but I don't think most women like fear.

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That's why you guys like to be choked. Not all of them. Not all of them.

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Women like bad boys, but they have to be good-looking bad boys for us to like

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them. If we see a bad boy and they're like girl sick and we're like,

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uh, it's gotta be like James Dean, not Freddy Krueger Yeah, listen,

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I don't know what you girls are into.

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I'm surprised that I get laid I'm putting in a request I'm not really putting

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in a request, but if you're gonna show up You better be pretty.

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Is this like a casting couch kind of thing maybe i

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think well we should she's the closest to finding out so this is her tell us

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if they're beautiful or i'll let you know yeah but remember beauty is in the

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eye of the beholder so beauty to her that's fine if she says it's beautiful

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to her i mean are you attracted to brian at all no exactly but i don't think

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i'd be attracted to anything with a tail,

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it depends are you really sure that's a tail yeah see or horns i mean are you

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really sure that's a horn we can play this game all day.

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So succubi affect humans primarily through sexual seduction in dreams or by

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directly appearing to their victims these encounters are often extremely vivid

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and realistic leading the victim to believe they are genuinely interacting with

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a physical being succubi can induce highly realistic, and often erotic dreams in their victims.

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These dreams can be so vivid that the victim may wake up believing they have

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actually had a physical encounter.

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Victims often wake up feeling drained and weak, as if their energy has been zapped.

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This is often attributed to the succubus draining their life force during the encounter.

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Repeated encounters with a succubus can lead to severe psychological issues,

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including anxiety, depression, and obsessive thoughts about the succubus encounter.

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Victims may also experience feelings of shame or guilt.

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Victims may experience sexual dysfunction, such as impotence or compulsive need for sexual activity.

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This can lead to difficulties in maintaining normal relationships and a decline in overall well-being.

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The interference of a succubus can lead to significant difficulties in maintaining

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healthy relationships.

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Victims may become withdrawn or preoccupied with their experiences,

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leading to strain in their personal lives.

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Recognizing a succubus presence involves several key indicators.

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Dreams that are exceptionally realistic and often involve a beautiful woman

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engaging in sexual activities with the victim, waking up exhausted and unexplained

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marks or a sense of having been physically engaged during the night,

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an unusual preoccupation with sexual thoughts or the dream entity,

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Victims may find themselves constantly thinking about their encounters with the succubus.

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Unexplained difficulties or distance in personal relationships.

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Victims may become withdrawn or preoccupied, leading to strain in their interactions with others.

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So don't like the first three at least? No.

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Affect every dude out there? Pretty much. I think every single man is affected by succubus.

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Is that what they call what dreams now?

00:34:40.987 --> 00:34:47.187
Succubus? No, that's nocturnal emissions, that's a wet dream.

00:34:50.389 --> 00:34:56.649
You said that was such a straight face i know i couldn't breathe that's funny

00:34:56.649 --> 00:35:06.309
i'm so happy that i can uh be like factual eternal nocturnal emissions yes isn't that also farting,

00:35:06.969 --> 00:35:10.169
farting in your sleep would be a nocturnal emission i know but that wakes me up every time,

00:35:11.749 --> 00:35:13.189
go get the smog tested,

00:35:14.889 --> 00:35:21.369
emissions test anyway emissions he's gonna pull up me like I need my emissions

00:35:21.369 --> 00:35:27.009
test isn't that don't they don't they put the probe in the tailpipe for that

00:35:27.009 --> 00:35:29.249
when you go right yeah yeah see,

00:35:30.789 --> 00:35:35.109
should I just have galloping up like a swinging line you're gonna get like on

00:35:35.109 --> 00:35:39.529
all fours like I'm ready you know it's like walking up to a drive-thru you just

00:35:39.529 --> 00:35:40.969
Yeah, I just walk up to him and she says, hey,

00:35:41.569 --> 00:35:44.449
can you test me out back there? He'll be doing a downward dog.

00:35:44.949 --> 00:35:48.729
I'm good for you. I mean, that's, I mean, downward dog. I mean,

00:35:49.509 --> 00:35:52.289
you know, right, set, fried. I don't know. I mean, what are they called?

00:35:54.289 --> 00:35:59.609
So, in folklore, incubi and succubi are sometimes believed to be forms of the

00:35:59.609 --> 00:36:02.849
same demon, capable of changing gender to achieve their goals.

00:36:03.289 --> 00:36:08.569
This idea stems from the belief that demons are inherently androgynous and can

00:36:08.569 --> 00:36:10.809
assume whatever form best suits their needs.

00:36:11.229 --> 00:36:16.069
In this context, a demon might appear as an incubus to a woman and a succubus to a man.

00:36:16.809 --> 00:36:21.429
You know, it's funny because my wife and I can just bang the same thing.

00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:25.389
From the same side. Yeah. Or like from opposite sides. From opposite sides, yeah.

00:36:25.769 --> 00:36:30.109
That's fantastic. It's an inky, sucky. Look at that, two for the price of one.

00:36:30.169 --> 00:36:33.269
Hey, two birds, one hole. I like it. Mm-hmm.

00:36:34.912 --> 00:36:38.092
One prevalent belief is that the incubi and succubi are

00:36:38.092 --> 00:36:40.932
two sides of the same entity did i read it yeah you did no

00:36:40.932 --> 00:36:43.852
sorry i did sorry my bad when incubi and

00:36:43.852 --> 00:36:47.052
succubi work in tandem they can create a continuous cycle of

00:36:47.052 --> 00:36:50.012
torment for their victims this cycle can lead to severe

00:36:50.012 --> 00:36:55.252
physical psychological and emotional distress for example a succubus might deduce

00:36:55.252 --> 00:37:00.092
a man draining his energy which is then transferred to an incubus to prey upon

00:37:00.092 --> 00:37:05.392
a woman this ongoing exchange can result in constant nightmares and sleep paralysis

00:37:05.392 --> 00:37:08.932
episodes leading to chronic insomnia and other sleep disorders.

00:37:09.212 --> 00:37:11.152
The repeated draining of energy

00:37:11.152 --> 00:37:15.052
and life force can leave victims feeling perpetually exhausted and weak.

00:37:15.432 --> 00:37:19.532
As victims struggle to understand and combat the supernatural forces affecting

00:37:19.532 --> 00:37:22.492
them, they may develop severe anxiety and paranoia.

00:37:22.832 --> 00:37:26.632
The stressed strain of these encounters can spill over into the victim's waking

00:37:26.632 --> 00:37:29.952
lives, leading to difficulties and maintaining healthy relationships.

00:37:30.792 --> 00:37:35.692
Identifying a combined presence of incubi and sex succubi involves looking for

00:37:35.692 --> 00:37:38.412
compounded signs from both entities.

00:37:38.872 --> 00:37:42.612
Both sexual and oppressive dreams involving male and female entities.

00:37:42.872 --> 00:37:47.712
Victims may experience dreams where they are seduced by a beautiful woman and

00:37:47.712 --> 00:37:49.372
tormented by a male presence.

00:37:49.732 --> 00:37:55.832
Rapid deterioration in physical health, emotional stability and maintaining a mental well-being.

00:37:56.192 --> 00:38:00.312
Victims may experience a decline in overall health and symptoms such as chronic

00:38:00.312 --> 00:38:02.092
fatigue, anxiety, and depression.

00:38:03.092 --> 00:38:08.672
Increased instances of unexplained phenomenon, or sorry, phenomenon in the victim's

00:38:08.672 --> 00:38:11.732
surroundings, such as strange noises, shadowy figures, and sudden temperature

00:38:11.732 --> 00:38:16.372
drops, victims may also experience a sense of being watched or followed.

00:38:17.132 --> 00:38:22.872
In European folklore, incubi and succubi are often depicted as demonic entities

00:38:22.872 --> 00:38:26.292
sent by Satan to corrupt and torment humans.

00:38:26.952 --> 00:38:31.832
These beliefs were particularly prevalent during the medieval period when the

00:38:31.832 --> 00:38:36.212
church wielded significant influence over societal norms and values.

00:38:36.572 --> 00:38:44.452
Can I interrupt? Absolutely. So the church acknowledged that this exists. Yes.

00:38:44.972 --> 00:38:48.932
So it's, you're not talking. I know, sorry, sorry. I needed to lean back for a minute.

00:38:49.792 --> 00:38:55.312
I just, as much as I have questions about the church, I just find that in general

00:38:55.312 --> 00:38:58.352
interesting that they chose to acknowledge this.

00:38:58.752 --> 00:39:04.252
Well, I think. Like instead of saying it's not real or whatever,

00:39:04.432 --> 00:39:06.972
they immediately throw it into the demon category, sure.

00:39:07.312 --> 00:39:10.652
But in a sense, they gave an opinion that these are real.

00:39:11.112 --> 00:39:17.172
Yeah, I think there's a two-fold explanation for that.

00:39:17.172 --> 00:39:24.052
The first is to further demonize sexuality and sex and have a better control

00:39:24.052 --> 00:39:30.012
over that, as well as any higher ranking officials that ever.

00:39:31.155 --> 00:39:35.155
Fall to the wayside with their desires of

00:39:35.155 --> 00:39:38.455
sexuality whether it be hetero or homosexual

00:39:38.455 --> 00:39:41.195
now have a scapegoat saying i was

00:39:41.195 --> 00:39:44.135
being attacked by satan i needed help i

00:39:44.135 --> 00:39:47.475
got the help and now i'm better and

00:39:47.475 --> 00:39:50.975
the reason why satan attacked me is

00:39:50.975 --> 00:39:53.995
because i'm so holy and important to god and the

00:39:53.995 --> 00:39:57.535
message or mission whatever so i

00:39:57.535 --> 00:40:00.635
think that was

00:40:00.635 --> 00:40:03.655
their angle on this because everything

00:40:03.655 --> 00:40:09.695
that doesn't fall under what they want and how they can control people is always

00:40:09.695 --> 00:40:15.115
going to be of evil and satan you know control that narrative right okay yeah

00:40:15.115 --> 00:40:20.795
it's interesting yeah no it's a good thought yeah it's nice i liked it i think

00:40:20.795 --> 00:40:23.615
good thoughts do you think good thoughts i think I think good thoughts.

00:40:23.735 --> 00:40:27.375
Okay, you're talking like Brie. That was English.

00:40:28.475 --> 00:40:36.015
Was it? Yes, I think good thoughts. You sure about that? It's a complete sentence. She did good thoughts.

00:40:38.415 --> 00:40:42.395
During the witch trials of the 15th to 18th centuries like i'm on a witch trail

00:40:42.395 --> 00:40:47.935
right now you both usually are i know how i feel yeah but you're you're you're mispronouncing bitch.

00:40:50.035 --> 00:40:52.975
So during the witch trials of the 15th to 18th centuries

00:40:52.975 --> 00:40:56.135
accusations of witchcraft often included allegations of

00:40:56.135 --> 00:40:59.555
consorting with incubi or succubi women accused

00:40:59.555 --> 00:41:02.795
of being witches were sometimes believed to have had sexual relations

00:41:02.795 --> 00:41:06.975
with these demons leading to their persecution and execution but

00:41:06.975 --> 00:41:10.835
the men weren't yeah interesting right those with

00:41:10.835 --> 00:41:13.735
arabic and muslim background often correlate the

00:41:13.735 --> 00:41:16.855
relation of encountering an incubus or succubus as

00:41:16.855 --> 00:41:19.895
proof they are being haunted by a jinn an invisible

00:41:19.895 --> 00:41:23.555
spirit created by allah out of smokeless fire the

00:41:23.555 --> 00:41:26.355
alp of teutonic or german folklore is one

00:41:26.355 --> 00:41:30.355
of the better known in zanzibar papaboa primary

00:41:30.355 --> 00:41:33.615
attacks men and generally behind closed doors

00:41:33.615 --> 00:41:36.755
in hungary a lederic can

00:41:36.755 --> 00:41:39.535
be a satanic lover that flies at night and appears as a

00:41:39.535 --> 00:41:42.815
fiery light as ignis a

00:41:42.815 --> 00:41:48.755
photos or will of the wisp the will of the wisp the will of the wisp or in its

00:41:48.755 --> 00:41:53.715
more benign form as a featherless chicken i mean if you saw a featherless chicken

00:41:53.715 --> 00:41:58.755
you'd be scared of it i mean that's alive not like on your dinner plate is it

00:41:58.755 --> 00:42:01.395
like a like a circumcised penis maybe.

00:42:02.135 --> 00:42:03.715
With wings and legs?

00:42:04.435 --> 00:42:08.335
I don't know. I mean, I'm just thinking of the word cock. Oh,

00:42:08.835 --> 00:42:10.935
that was a stretch. Not really.

00:42:11.395 --> 00:42:16.255
Chicken and cocks are the same thing. Yeah, a rooster is considered a cock. Yeah.

00:42:16.955 --> 00:42:20.315
It was still a stretch. It's a male chicken. I need coffee if you're going to

00:42:20.315 --> 00:42:24.875
make lame jokes like that. Wow. It just got serious in here. Yeah, it did.

00:42:26.255 --> 00:42:32.615
In Swedish folklore, there is the mara or mar, a spirit or goblin that rides

00:42:32.615 --> 00:42:36.395
in the chest of humans while they sleep giving them bad dreams or nightmares,

00:42:37.385 --> 00:42:41.645
Belief in the mark goes back to the Norse Yinglanga saga. That's not.

00:42:42.345 --> 00:42:45.165
That's not even close how to pronounce that, but I'm going with it.

00:42:45.265 --> 00:42:49.425
Yinglinga. Yinglinga saga from the 13th century.

00:42:50.265 --> 00:42:54.625
In Turkish culture, incubus is known as Karpasan.

00:42:55.045 --> 00:42:59.205
In all traditions generally, it is believed that the repeated sexual activity

00:42:59.205 --> 00:43:04.205
of the succubus may result in the deterioration of health or even death.

00:43:04.205 --> 00:43:07.665
Okay so i just did something

00:43:07.665 --> 00:43:10.525
i broke and i lost

00:43:10.525 --> 00:43:14.105
my spot sorry guys i did

00:43:14.105 --> 00:43:16.745
this again good job yeah here we

00:43:16.745 --> 00:43:21.545
go you're fired yeah that's fine podcast goes away then okay i was gonna say

00:43:21.545 --> 00:43:26.685
because who else is gonna read these stories i know we'd be like uh yeah we

00:43:26.685 --> 00:43:31.645
know my reading skills are subpar it's okay we i still love my out loud reading

00:43:31.645 --> 00:43:34.725
skills you're out loud My internal monologue's great. Oh, I'm sure.

00:43:34.885 --> 00:43:35.965
I'm sure it's just as good.

00:43:38.525 --> 00:43:42.645
In Asian cultures, there are similar entities to incubi and succubi,

00:43:42.705 --> 00:43:45.405
though they may have different characteristics and names.

00:43:45.585 --> 00:43:50.405
In Japanese folklore, the yuri are vengeful spirits that can include entities

00:43:50.405 --> 00:43:51.985
with succubus-like traits.

00:43:52.365 --> 00:43:57.085
These spirits are often associated with feelings of vengeance or unfulfilled

00:43:57.085 --> 00:44:01.745
desires and can appear in dreams to seduce or torment their victims.

00:44:02.585 --> 00:44:06.985
In Chinese folklore, the magwa, wasn't that what the gremlins are called?

00:44:07.785 --> 00:44:14.305
Magway? Yeah, that's pretty close. Or the gui are malevolent spirits that can

00:44:14.305 --> 00:44:15.605
possess or seduce humans.

00:44:16.005 --> 00:44:20.085
These entities are often associated with causing illness, misfortune, or death.

00:44:20.812 --> 00:44:26.292
In India, the succubus is referred to as the Yakshini, who are attendees of

00:44:26.292 --> 00:44:31.592
Hindu god of wealth, Kubera, and are considered to be guardians of hidden treasure in the earth.

00:44:31.872 --> 00:44:36.732
They are shown as beautiful, voluptuous females with wide hips and narrow waists,

00:44:37.392 --> 00:44:40.552
broad shoulders, and exaggerated spherical breasts.

00:44:41.452 --> 00:44:46.152
Yakshinis are believed to provide gratification to senses as they have extreme

00:44:46.152 --> 00:44:48.892
beauty and have power to delight the body.

00:44:49.772 --> 00:44:55.212
36 different types of yakshinis are described in the text of tantras who fulfill

00:44:55.212 --> 00:44:59.532
the different desires of human beings they are believed to always remain young

00:44:59.532 --> 00:45:05.372
and beautiful powerful and effective who if please can fulfill the materialistic desires of a person,

00:45:05.932 --> 00:45:10.572
like a sex genie yeah this is what i was kind of saying you're gonna go to india

00:45:10.572 --> 00:45:16.192
now i'm going i'm going everywhere he's gonna go to each one his culture so

00:45:16.192 --> 00:45:17.672
he can experience each one Yeah,

00:45:17.792 --> 00:45:22.712
so the Yakshini Sathana can be done by following specific tantras.

00:45:23.032 --> 00:45:25.172
What's a tantra? Do you guys know?

00:45:25.552 --> 00:45:31.812
Yeah, it's the whole tantric, that book about like sex positions and self and

00:45:31.812 --> 00:45:33.932
gratifying your partner. Oh.

00:45:34.172 --> 00:45:39.652
So the book was written by succubus demons and incubus demons. Yeah, the Yakshini.

00:45:40.012 --> 00:45:46.552
It's a Hindu or Buddhist mystical or magical text dating from the 7th century or earlier. All right.

00:45:47.272 --> 00:45:51.772
So if they believe it's a demon, yet thousands, if not millions of people have

00:45:51.772 --> 00:45:56.872
studied or follow this text, that's interesting, no?

00:45:57.112 --> 00:46:02.172
No, this is, it doesn't say it's demonic in Hindu.

00:46:02.552 --> 00:46:05.692
In Hindu, it's part of the god of wealth, Kubera.

00:46:06.172 --> 00:46:09.512
And they're considered to be guardians of hidden treasure in the earth.

00:46:09.912 --> 00:46:13.112
So that's why. So it's a good thing to encounter one, essentially.

00:46:13.372 --> 00:46:16.212
Well, I mean, from my understanding, Hindu have many, many gods.

00:46:16.412 --> 00:46:19.892
Yeah. So, kind of like the Greeks. So, I'm assuming...

00:46:21.325 --> 00:46:26.165
I am assuming that you would kind of pick which ones you want to follow.

00:46:26.845 --> 00:46:31.605
Maybe, or which ones you kind of want to represent over another.

00:46:31.845 --> 00:46:37.465
Maybe you still pay homage to all of them, but one is more like your soul animal,

00:46:37.685 --> 00:46:41.245
for lack of a better term, that is like the god you follow the most.

00:46:41.345 --> 00:46:43.585
I don't think it's a... You don't think so?

00:46:43.805 --> 00:46:46.465
It's a one or the other. It's a monotheistic. It is monotheistic.

00:46:46.465 --> 00:46:48.725
Or it's not polytheistic.

00:46:48.925 --> 00:46:53.905
Sorry, it's not mono. Yeah, it's polytheistic, but I think you kind of, you can.

00:46:54.185 --> 00:46:58.065
Well, no, if you need prayer to help someone who's sick, you're going to,

00:46:58.245 --> 00:47:00.505
just like Catholics do with saints and stuff too.

00:47:00.725 --> 00:47:03.225
You pray to St. Anthony, you pray to St.

00:47:03.505 --> 00:47:05.845
Thomas, you pray to all, you know, similar thing.

00:47:06.385 --> 00:47:12.285
It's just. Right. But I guess where my mind goes is that if you are more of

00:47:12.285 --> 00:47:18.745
a materialistic type of person, you may pay homage to this one opposed to the, you know what I mean?

00:47:18.745 --> 00:47:22.945
Like you're you're you're you're

00:47:22.945 --> 00:47:25.725
you're praying or whatever to all of them yeah but like one is more of

00:47:25.725 --> 00:47:28.925
one for you than the other you

00:47:28.925 --> 00:47:32.945
know 12 or i think i forget how many there are i don't know but i don't know

00:47:32.945 --> 00:47:37.205
if i believe it or agree with that that's right but i i would love to do should

00:47:37.205 --> 00:47:40.405
get someone who's an expert in that yeah no i would love to do that and then

00:47:40.405 --> 00:47:44.425
also do like a deep dive and into the into all different i mean that being one

00:47:44.425 --> 00:47:47.645
because i really that's the one i I know the least amount about,

00:47:47.885 --> 00:47:49.945
and I want to learn more about it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:50.585 --> 00:47:56.265
All right. So what's the difference between a sex dream and a sex demon?

00:47:56.965 --> 00:48:01.645
Sex dreams are a common human experience often triggered by hormonal fluctuations,

00:48:02.185 --> 00:48:04.485
emotional states, or recent experiences.

00:48:04.945 --> 00:48:11.585
They are typically seen as a normal part of sleep and do not involve any supernatural entities.

00:48:12.345 --> 00:48:16.525
Incubus and succubus are supernatural beings from folklore that are believed

00:48:16.525 --> 00:48:19.045
to have sexual encounters with sleeping individuals.

00:48:19.485 --> 00:48:23.545
These experiences are often associated with feelings of fear,

00:48:23.765 --> 00:48:26.165
helplessness, and a sense of being violated.

00:48:27.267 --> 00:48:31.787
So I think I skipped African folklore. Yes, you did. Okay, sorry. Let me go back here.

00:48:31.927 --> 00:48:36.487
So in African folklore, there are tales of night spirits and demons that prey

00:48:36.487 --> 00:48:37.807
upon humans during sleep.

00:48:37.987 --> 00:48:41.987
These entities are often believed to be responsible for sleep paralysis and

00:48:41.987 --> 00:48:43.447
other nocturnal disturbances.

00:48:43.967 --> 00:48:48.807
According to African beliefs, men who experience having sex with such principality

00:48:48.807 --> 00:48:51.667
or in dreams, usually in the form

00:48:51.667 --> 00:48:54.987
of a beautiful woman, find themselves exhausted as soon as they awaken.

00:48:54.987 --> 00:48:59.227
You know, I am exhausted every single time I wake up, but I have had none of

00:48:59.227 --> 00:49:03.367
these dreams or experiences, so I feel as though I'm missing out.

00:49:03.647 --> 00:49:07.047
Maybe you're just not remembering them. No, I would remember them.

00:49:07.747 --> 00:49:11.387
So. Not unless they met in black too afterwards. Maybe.

00:49:12.147 --> 00:49:13.907
They're just zapping them. Zapped your memories.

00:49:14.767 --> 00:49:20.007
Yeah. All right. Key differences with the differences of sex dream or sex demon.

00:49:20.967 --> 00:49:25.847
Sex dreams are a natural human phenomenon, while incubus and succubus are supernatural

00:49:25.847 --> 00:49:27.027
entities from folklore.

00:49:27.487 --> 00:49:32.387
Sex dreams are often pleasurable or neutral, while incubus-succubus experiences

00:49:32.387 --> 00:49:36.187
are typically associated with negative emotions like fear and distress.

00:49:36.727 --> 00:49:41.947
In sex dreams, individuals often feel some level of control or agency,

00:49:41.947 --> 00:49:46.227
while incubus-succubus experiences are often described as involuntary and overwhelming.

00:49:47.147 --> 00:49:52.247
So the National Institute of Health. Yes, this is interesting. Yeah.

00:49:52.727 --> 00:49:58.987
So when looking up information on this episode, I was looking for cases or real-life

00:49:58.987 --> 00:50:00.647
experiences or people's reports,

00:50:00.647 --> 00:50:08.447
and I found at least three studies by the National Institute of Health testing,

00:50:09.007 --> 00:50:13.287
studying, and reporting the concept of incubus and succubus.

00:50:14.267 --> 00:50:19.367
So money was put into these studies i just the fact that they give it a little

00:50:19.367 --> 00:50:24.507
bit more credence to actually look into it not just blow it off as it's a psychological

00:50:24.507 --> 00:50:29.507
event or it's a bad dream like we said before you know frank i think you lost your dream job here,

00:50:30.409 --> 00:50:35.229
what you could have done the study giving a test on me yeah yeah but if i had

00:50:35.229 --> 00:50:42.549
these experiences but i have not like you know but you know what i want to i

00:50:42.549 --> 00:50:43.609
thought you've always wanted to,

00:50:44.169 --> 00:50:48.489
well i've always wanted to meet a demon i mean i mean does it matter what the

00:50:48.489 --> 00:50:54.149
form of a demon it is no it doesn't but i would at least like dinner and drinks

00:50:54.149 --> 00:50:58.029
first i don't want to just jump right into sex i mean what kind of most people

00:50:58.029 --> 00:50:59.909
would prefer dinner and drinks yeah i I mean,

00:51:00.029 --> 00:51:02.829
what kind of savage do you think I am, ladies?

00:51:03.049 --> 00:51:05.709
I mean, I don't mind winding and dining. But aren't you always willing?

00:51:06.429 --> 00:51:08.929
I'm always ready. I'm always ready. Maybe if they just give you a cigarette

00:51:08.929 --> 00:51:13.009
afterwards. Well, listen. Dude, I miss cigarettes so much.

00:51:14.329 --> 00:51:18.069
No, I, you know, I enjoy a good conversation beforehand.

00:51:18.789 --> 00:51:21.129
Maybe there's pillow talk afterwards. I don't know. Oh, yeah,

00:51:21.149 --> 00:51:22.449
no, before and after, you know.

00:51:22.589 --> 00:51:26.269
A good cuddle session, you know. I mean, I can do without the cuddling,

00:51:26.469 --> 00:51:28.009
but, you know, their tail might get in the way.

00:51:28.269 --> 00:51:32.069
It's too hot. are you sure that's a

00:51:32.069 --> 00:51:35.109
tail i mean it may not be even more

00:51:35.109 --> 00:51:39.209
why i don't want to cut them you know so all

00:51:39.209 --> 00:51:43.529
right so we're going to jump into case one yeah since i just want to say since

00:51:43.529 --> 00:51:47.149
these are written by the national health institute they're a little more sanitized

00:51:47.149 --> 00:51:52.029
from a scientific perspective yeah okay bam yeah all right sounds good so there

00:51:52.029 --> 00:51:55.449
might be technical terms and stuff in here technical terms that i'll never use

00:51:55.449 --> 00:51:58.669
again except for these stories And he probably will make you sound smart.

00:51:59.029 --> 00:52:02.209
Or you may not say it correctly there. That's okay. Pronounce them.

00:52:02.669 --> 00:52:06.649
We'll add it to the second spreadsheet of just pronounced words. Yeah.

00:52:09.292 --> 00:52:14.592
A 50-year-old married female who was suffering from hypertension and diabetes

00:52:14.592 --> 00:52:20.252
mellitus since the age of 52 years presented with a history of abnormal experiences

00:52:20.252 --> 00:52:23.152
since the last 12 months.

00:52:23.472 --> 00:52:26.632
All her symptoms started with a huge financial debt.

00:52:26.992 --> 00:52:31.672
Initially, her symptoms were characterized by delusion of persecution in reference.

00:52:32.352 --> 00:52:37.232
After three to four months of onset of psychotic symptoms, In addition to the

00:52:37.232 --> 00:52:42.872
delusional of persecution in reference, she developed symptoms suggestive of incubus.

00:52:43.592 --> 00:52:47.732
As per the patient, while she would go to sleep at any time of the day or night,

00:52:47.892 --> 00:52:51.132
she would have experience of someone having sexual intercourse with her.

00:52:51.712 --> 00:52:58.092
Often, she would wake up in the middle of sleep and feel that someone had sexual intercourse with her.

00:52:58.552 --> 00:53:03.072
As per patient, while lying down, she could feel that someone was touching her

00:53:03.072 --> 00:53:05.792
all over the body, including her breast and genitalia.

00:53:06.572 --> 00:53:10.052
In addition, she would be able to feel pressure over her body as if someone

00:53:10.052 --> 00:53:14.632
was lying on her body and at the same time would be able to feel to and fro

00:53:14.632 --> 00:53:17.012
motion of the phallus in her genitalia.

00:53:17.552 --> 00:53:22.792
On waking up, she would not be able to find anyone and would not be able to go back to sleep.

00:53:23.412 --> 00:53:27.112
She would not be able to pinpoint the person having sexual in-course with her,

00:53:27.272 --> 00:53:31.532
but was fully convinced about the experience she would have every day.

00:53:31.952 --> 00:53:35.312
She denied of having orgasm during any such episodes.

00:53:35.872 --> 00:53:39.172
She held this belief with conviction, amounting to delusion.

00:53:39.372 --> 00:53:42.532
She attributed her belief to black magic and demons.

00:53:43.580 --> 00:53:48.140
This was associated with a significant distress. This experience was not associated

00:53:48.140 --> 00:53:51.360
with any other sleep-related experience or disorder or experiences.

00:53:51.820 --> 00:53:56.620
Over the period, in addition to the above symptoms, she also developed delusion

00:53:56.620 --> 00:53:58.980
of control and somatic passivity.

00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:04.180
There was no history suggestive of any other psychiatric symptoms,

00:54:04.420 --> 00:54:08.300
any neurological deficits, symptoms suggestive of narcolepsy,

00:54:08.560 --> 00:54:10.200
insomnia, hypersomnia.

00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.700
Sleep terrors, nightmares, sleep-related movement disorders,

00:54:15.340 --> 00:54:19.940
panic attacks, post-traumatic stress disorder, any cognitive deficits,

00:54:20.260 --> 00:54:22.680
and recent change in medications.

00:54:22.980 --> 00:54:28.020
Her sexual history revealed that she was sexually inactive for the past few

00:54:28.020 --> 00:54:30.100
months and mostly was asleep alone.

00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.380
Her routine investigations in the form of hemogram, renal function test,

00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.680
liver function test, serum electrolytes, thyroid function test,

00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:45.500
magnetic resonance imaging of brain did not reveal any abnormality.

00:54:46.020 --> 00:54:50.900
Based on the available information, she was diagnosed with late-onset schizophrenia

00:54:50.900 --> 00:54:58.400
and was started on olanzipan, 10 milligrams per day, which has increased to 15 milligrams a day.

00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:02.220
Over the period of three months, all of her symptoms were resolved.

00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.280
Later, she also developed post-psychotic depression and required the use of

00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:15.300
vanlaxapine after remission of depressive symptoms. She maintained well on olanzapine

00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:16.580
for the next three years.

00:55:16.940 --> 00:55:20.540
After this, she stopped olanzapine and maintained well without medications for

00:55:20.540 --> 00:55:25.040
nearly six years and again had the relapse of similar symptoms following a stressor.

00:55:25.640 --> 00:55:30.560
She was again managed with Olanzapine and achieved permission in four months.

00:55:32.100 --> 00:55:37.560
Good job on all the drugs. That was really hard. Yeah. Words were really hard

00:55:37.560 --> 00:55:38.580
there. You did a good job.

00:55:39.220 --> 00:55:47.240
Better you than me. But I'm wondering, so, okay, we can say that she had these

00:55:47.240 --> 00:55:52.160
experiences after a stressful event, but what if the drugs just numbed her to her memory of it?

00:55:52.520 --> 00:55:54.880
Very possible. Yeah. Yeah.

00:55:55.520 --> 00:56:00.520
I mean, you can maybe suggest that stress might bring that on and you can have

00:56:00.520 --> 00:56:05.300
these experiences if you, you know, experience depression or loneliness or whichever.

00:56:05.620 --> 00:56:08.220
But if you're on a medication.

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:13.040
Yeah. And she had a relapse after not taking the medication.

00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:15.880
And I'm sure it took a while to get out of her system.

00:56:16.940 --> 00:56:17.780
I don't know.

00:56:19.300 --> 00:56:27.660
I'm trying to reread this. And did it say that they were unwanted or...

00:56:30.059 --> 00:56:34.039
The patient yeah did the patient say that these were unwanted advances

00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:38.719
no just so that she experienced it and say if she wanted it or she didn't want

00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:45.399
it so i'm wondering if in this case it was more of a psychological attack and

00:56:45.399 --> 00:56:51.119
because if the if they were neutral experiences right,

00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:58.219
it could be just her longingness to have a sexual partner and her mind was creating

00:56:58.219 --> 00:57:02.619
these she's She's married, but she just didn't have intercourse for years.

00:57:03.019 --> 00:57:04.599
Oh, it does say married female. Yeah.

00:57:05.399 --> 00:57:09.499
Well, I mean, shame on the man then. Well, it takes two to tango,

00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.279
unless you're an incubus or succubus.

00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.539
Yeah, right. I mean, yeah. But I mean, if she's having these.

00:57:14.779 --> 00:57:21.099
But like all of her psychiatric tests showed no severe neurological issues,

00:57:21.099 --> 00:57:25.339
yet they still diagnosed her with post whatever schizophrenia,

00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.879
late onset schizophrenia or whatever.

00:57:27.879 --> 00:57:32.179
Yeah, but it says that she went, maintained well without medications for six

00:57:32.179 --> 00:57:35.299
years and had a relapse after a stressor. Yeah.

00:57:35.839 --> 00:57:40.079
And then after four months of the olanzapine, she achieved remission.

00:57:40.439 --> 00:57:43.699
So what if thinkubus, succubus, whatever was her safety blanket?

00:57:44.419 --> 00:57:50.259
Maybe. You go through a stressful time and that's just like anybody on a drug or something.

00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.639
You relapse and go back to your drug of choice. Yeah, maybe.

00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.819
While being off of her prescribed drugs. Right.

00:57:56.199 --> 00:58:00.739
I don't know. Interesting, though. That is very, it's interesting that the NIH

00:58:00.739 --> 00:58:05.459
put this in their official materials.

00:58:05.659 --> 00:58:07.479
It's really interesting.

00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.619
So, all right, case two.

00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.039
A 24-year-old male who has been using cannabis in dependent pattern presented

00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:21.259
with an insidious onset and continuous illness of two-year duration categorized

00:58:21.259 --> 00:58:22.999
by the delusion of reference,

00:58:23.739 --> 00:58:28.259
the delusional percept, delusion of love, auditory, commenting,

00:58:28.539 --> 00:58:31.839
commanding, and discussing, and tactile hallucinations.

00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:37.439
A presentation on mental status examination, he was untidy and ill-kept,

00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.279
had blunt effect, however there was no formal thought disorder.

00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:47.559
When asked about the psychopathology, he ascribed the voices heard to one of

00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:52.039
his female teacher who would express her love toward him in conversations heard

00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.219
as part of the auditory hallucinations.

00:58:54.539 --> 00:58:58.139
He also ascribed the tactile hallucinations to the same teacher.

00:58:58.399 --> 00:59:02.619
He described this as a sensation of vibration which he would feel all over his

00:59:02.619 --> 00:59:05.539
body, more so in his thighs and genital region.

00:59:05.939 --> 00:59:10.679
This would occur mainly at night when he would be fully awake or asleep and alone.

00:59:10.839 --> 00:59:15.799
He would feel aroused and simultaneously hear the voice of his teacher claiming

00:59:15.799 --> 00:59:18.219
to be responsive for these sensations.

00:59:19.202 --> 00:59:24.202
As per him, he would hear that she is in a deep love with him and wanted to

00:59:24.202 --> 00:59:27.762
have sexual intercourse with him, would feel his penis to be touched,

00:59:27.802 --> 00:59:31.442
and in the process would have erection and occasional ejaculation.

00:59:31.982 --> 00:59:36.482
He would be unable to describe exactly how she would be doing this,

00:59:36.482 --> 00:59:39.522
but was convinced that it was she who was doing so.

00:59:39.842 --> 00:59:43.522
He also believed that his body is under the control of his teacher,

00:59:43.522 --> 00:59:47.602
who forces him to indulge in sexual activities against his will.

00:59:48.142 --> 00:59:52.302
He would deny drawing any pleasure out of these activities and would say that

00:59:52.302 --> 00:59:54.662
he was not able to avoid this experience.

00:59:55.182 --> 00:59:59.962
This experience was not associated with any active cannabis use or abstinence from cannabis.

01:00:00.262 --> 01:00:02.402
At the time of mental status examination,

01:00:02.402 --> 01:00:06.962
his cognitive functions were preserved and he had poor insight.

01:00:07.402 --> 01:00:11.642
Due to all these symptoms, he had to discontinue his education and become homebound.

01:00:11.642 --> 01:00:17.002
Based on the available information, a diagnosis of schizophrenia and cannabis-dependent

01:00:17.002 --> 01:00:21.302
syndrome was considered, and he was sequentially treated with olanzapine,

01:00:22.002 --> 01:00:33.382
risperidone, risperidone, trifluoroparazine, and the combination of olanzapine and flufenazine.

01:00:34.762 --> 01:00:39.782
Too many zines. Way too many zines. Decanoate and adequate doses for adequate

01:00:39.782 --> 01:00:44.402
duration. He showed 40% to 50% improvement in auditory hallucinations,

01:00:44.422 --> 01:00:49.462
but no significant change in tactile hallucinations with these medications.

01:00:49.862 --> 01:00:56.662
Finally, he responded to clozapine in a dose of 200 milligrams a day. Clozapine. Clozapine.

01:00:57.522 --> 01:01:02.282
Lots of peens, domes, zines. Yeah, way too many peens for this guy.

01:01:04.562 --> 01:01:08.702
But see that would lead

01:01:08.702 --> 01:01:12.702
me down to more of an incubus succubus affliction

01:01:12.702 --> 01:01:16.342
because it was against his will yeah and

01:01:16.342 --> 01:01:19.682
most of the medications didn't help

01:01:19.682 --> 01:01:23.022
and i want to say the clozapine in 200

01:01:23.022 --> 01:01:26.562
milligram that's a high dose if i remember correctly from the

01:01:26.562 --> 01:01:30.042
little classes i took in psychology and

01:01:30.042 --> 01:01:32.762
medications i think that's it because i think

01:01:32.762 --> 01:01:35.942
your first dose is 12.5 milligrams

01:01:35.942 --> 01:01:42.622
okay that's huge yeah yeah so and he wasn't able to get off him like the first

01:01:42.622 --> 01:01:48.302
case right so this seems more like more of an attack to where that high of a

01:01:48.302 --> 01:01:53.562
dose of that drug maybe you're right kind of.

01:01:54.878 --> 01:01:58.258
Muffled yeah the experience but even

01:01:58.258 --> 01:02:01.218
said like the the auditory went down but the physical

01:02:01.218 --> 01:02:05.138
he still had physical yeah so a

01:02:05.138 --> 01:02:09.918
reddit user our holiday underscore ad7044

01:02:09.918 --> 01:02:16.018
this is around the second time i've experienced this as a 25 year old female

01:02:16.018 --> 01:02:21.778
i'm in sleep paralysis and laying on my stomach until I feel some energy slash

01:02:21.778 --> 01:02:25.658
spirit trying to have sex with me slash hunt me from the back.

01:02:25.958 --> 01:02:30.638
Then I start to feel pressure on my head and neck as if it's trying to pin me.

01:02:30.918 --> 01:02:34.298
Is this some kind of incubus demon or some lurking spirit?

01:02:34.558 --> 01:02:40.258
The first time this happened was a few months ago, but I know in between these two incidents,

01:02:40.258 --> 01:02:43.578
I have smudged sage in my room and such,

01:02:43.578 --> 01:02:46.858
although not the whole house in a while but is

01:02:46.858 --> 01:02:51.818
this the same spirit it's weird because as a human being i can get horny lol

01:02:51.818 --> 01:02:56.738
not gonna lie but rationally i don't think this is a good this is good that

01:02:56.738 --> 01:03:00.538
a spirit is trying to have sex with me in my sleep it could also possibly be

01:03:00.538 --> 01:03:06.218
siphoning my energy for all i know well that's fucking whatever it sounds like a dumb.

01:03:10.438 --> 01:03:13.238
Just saying no you're right i mean you have

01:03:13.238 --> 01:03:16.598
you're not incorrect it sounds

01:03:16.598 --> 01:03:20.518
like it's trying to be dominant yep what i

01:03:20.518 --> 01:03:23.398
mean why does it have to be a male spirit what if it's a

01:03:23.398 --> 01:03:26.018
female spirit with a strap on maybe i mean

01:03:26.018 --> 01:03:29.278
maybe i mean they could be both right whatever it is whoever it wants to be

01:03:29.278 --> 01:03:32.498
a dom so what if it's not an incubus or stuggie bus what if it is like a ghost

01:03:32.498 --> 01:03:38.298
spirit but it's like oh yeah you know i'm just you know i mean she just said

01:03:38.298 --> 01:03:44.518
put me from the back so it's not like yeah it needed to have a strap on anything can hump another thing,

01:03:45.615 --> 01:03:49.775
So it could be like a ghost of a dog. Sure. Yeah. I just want to.

01:03:50.315 --> 01:03:51.495
Lassie. It's just a damn. Wow.

01:03:53.575 --> 01:03:55.915
What? What? Billy falls on the wall?

01:03:58.215 --> 01:04:04.395
All right. So Reddit user Martian31. I've had multiple encounters with what

01:04:04.395 --> 01:04:06.875
I've read to be these type of demons.

01:04:07.095 --> 01:04:10.475
It's always in my sleep. They will have sex with me. I won't lie.

01:04:10.635 --> 01:04:13.855
They're pretty good at what they do, LOL. and it's

01:04:13.855 --> 01:04:17.235
always and it's always feels so real there have

01:04:17.235 --> 01:04:20.495
been multiple times when i get to touch them they disappear

01:04:20.495 --> 01:04:23.715
most of the time they are just a shadow figure no

01:04:23.715 --> 01:04:26.475
distinguishing features there's a time where it was

01:04:26.475 --> 01:04:29.335
a woman with wings another time i touched the male figure and

01:04:29.335 --> 01:04:32.255
his skin was rough he looked up at me and it

01:04:32.255 --> 01:04:35.055
was like the most horrifying thing ever i was

01:04:35.055 --> 01:04:37.855
in sleep paralysis and it took a lot of effort to wake up

01:04:37.855 --> 01:04:40.875
does anyone else have experiences or any information

01:04:40.875 --> 01:04:44.035
in this is it just a vivid dream or are they real now

01:04:44.035 --> 01:04:46.995
that's sounds like more of a classic yeah

01:04:46.995 --> 01:04:50.195
incubus and there goes it answers your question both male

01:04:50.195 --> 01:04:52.855
and female come to visit you yeah they do one of us at the

01:04:52.855 --> 01:04:56.295
same time or separate i mean listen if

01:04:56.295 --> 01:05:00.435
they come at the same time there's way too many demons in my room you know

01:05:00.435 --> 01:05:03.695
you don't want to have like a threesome with

01:05:03.695 --> 01:05:07.515
the two demons no i don't no no and

01:05:07.515 --> 01:05:10.575
just because if i'm gonna my penis

01:05:10.575 --> 01:05:13.495
can be the only star of the show you know i i

01:05:13.495 --> 01:05:16.775
don't want co-stars i don't need co-stars now

01:05:16.775 --> 01:05:19.575
they're trying to be a well then you

01:05:19.575 --> 01:05:23.595
don't get to be the star listen those are fighting words then there's fighting

01:05:23.595 --> 01:05:36.795
words so reddit user kelly with an i for jc i wonder what that stands for jesus christ superstar.

01:05:38.495 --> 01:05:42.755
I've had encounters with an incubus several years ago i could completely feel

01:05:42.755 --> 01:05:47.775
it but could not see it whatsoever all i could see was the outline of it under

01:05:47.775 --> 01:05:53.035
my sheets every night it would open my bedroom door and in the form of a snake slash serpent,

01:05:53.315 --> 01:05:57.975
I could see it slither under my sheets from the foot of my bed right up to my face.

01:05:58.295 --> 01:06:02.935
I literally felt its long, thin snake tongue touch my face.

01:06:03.675 --> 01:06:08.755
Shortly after, it would morph into a much larger human-like form and proceed to do what they do.

01:06:08.955 --> 01:06:13.675
You know, I would be physically and emotionally drained the entire next day.

01:06:14.015 --> 01:06:15.755
Went on for about three weeks total.

01:06:16.646 --> 01:06:20.866
Other completely strange shit happen too. But that's a whole other thing that

01:06:20.866 --> 01:06:23.626
I rarely talk about because people think I'm crazy.

01:06:23.886 --> 01:06:26.786
I know I'm not, wait, what?

01:06:27.046 --> 01:06:32.366
I know I'm not though, and I know they was our real.

01:06:32.526 --> 01:06:36.346
Okay, that last sentence made me sound crazy. Yeah, well, first of all.

01:06:36.526 --> 01:06:44.366
I know they not real. I know I'm not though, and I know that was our real.

01:06:44.366 --> 01:06:47.606
That's i know i'm not though and i know it

01:06:47.606 --> 01:06:51.166
it and they were are real very

01:06:51.166 --> 01:06:53.926
i i i can't even say it the snake-like thing

01:06:53.926 --> 01:07:02.326
was servicing her during that and that's probably i mean well so let's so this

01:07:02.326 --> 01:07:06.326
is what i don't understand people always say this well there's other completely

01:07:06.326 --> 01:07:10.386
strange shit that happened too but i'll tell you that later right but but she's

01:07:10.386 --> 01:07:11.446
like reddit works i I know,

01:07:11.546 --> 01:07:15.746
but that's a whole other thing that I rarely talk about because people think I'm crazy.

01:07:16.086 --> 01:07:20.806
Listen, bitch, you're seeing a snake crawled into your room.

01:07:20.886 --> 01:07:24.066
Opened the door without hands. Right. And touched your face with its tongue.

01:07:24.246 --> 01:07:26.646
Tongue, and then it morphed into a human and serviced you.

01:07:27.306 --> 01:07:31.026
Guess what? I already think you're fucking crazy. I mean. Or you're like, tell me more.

01:07:31.446 --> 01:07:34.786
Tell me more, tell me more. Well, yeah, I mean, tell me more and,

01:07:34.926 --> 01:07:36.466
you know, can you guys leave the room?

01:07:37.006 --> 01:07:42.946
So, but yeah, I hate when people do that You think I was crazy if I told you all the other stuff.

01:07:43.086 --> 01:07:45.606
No, I think you're crazy now. So you might as well just...

01:07:46.237 --> 01:07:53.097
Spill the beans. Yeah, spill the beans. Yeah, flick it. So the legend of Incubi

01:07:53.097 --> 01:07:56.737
and Succubi have persisted through the ages, evolving with cultural beliefs

01:07:56.737 --> 01:07:59.337
and understandings of human psychology and the supernatural.

01:07:59.977 --> 01:08:04.397
These entities have been portrayed in various forms, from 11 demons sent to

01:08:04.397 --> 01:08:07.757
corrupt and torment humans to complex characters in literature and media.

01:08:08.497 --> 01:08:13.157
Understanding the origins, characteristics, and impacts of incubi and succubi

01:08:13.157 --> 01:08:17.257
can provide insight into ancient beliefs about the nature of evil,

01:08:17.677 --> 01:08:19.317
sexuality, and the unknown.

01:08:19.577 --> 01:08:24.317
Whether viewed as literal demons or as manifestations of deeper psychological

01:08:24.317 --> 01:08:29.157
fears, the stories of these entities remind us of the powerful interplay between

01:08:29.157 --> 01:08:31.797
the mind, the body, and the supernatural.

01:08:32.117 --> 01:08:36.517
Through the lens of modern psychology and science, many of the experiences attributed

01:08:36.517 --> 01:08:41.297
to incubi and succubi can be understood as manifestations of sleep disorders.

01:08:41.937 --> 01:08:44.657
Repressed desires, and psychological stress.

01:08:45.097 --> 01:08:49.537
However, the cultural and historical significance of these entities continues

01:08:49.537 --> 01:08:51.097
to captivate and intrigue.

01:08:51.277 --> 01:08:56.697
As we explore the rich tapestry of folklore and myths surrounding incubi and succubi,

01:08:56.777 --> 01:08:59.857
we gain a deeper appreciation for the ways in which human societies

01:08:59.857 --> 01:09:02.997
have sought to understand and explain the mysteries and

01:09:02.997 --> 01:09:07.537
often frightening aspects of the human experience so

01:09:07.537 --> 01:09:10.257
brie yes are you a

01:09:10.257 --> 01:09:12.897
victim of an incubus i'm going to

01:09:12.897 --> 01:09:15.637
do my own investigation trying to figure this out because i don't know

01:09:15.637 --> 01:09:18.957
we'll we'll see i'm gonna have to remember my

01:09:18.957 --> 01:09:24.097
dreams so what if you're gonna like set a camera up or like how do you i'm kind

01:09:24.097 --> 01:09:26.817
of curious what kind of experiments yeah what are your experiments i don't know

01:09:26.817 --> 01:09:36.277
yet i have to figure it out she's gonna booby trap her boobies you're just gonna catch brian in there.

01:09:40.263 --> 01:09:46.483
So it was you i have so many images he's got a little pen he's got a little yeah he does

01:09:46.923 --> 01:09:49.663
like when the doctor looks at your tonsils or whatever he's got one

01:09:49.663 --> 01:09:55.103
of those flashing in her eyeballs oh oh yeah yeah he just pretends he's asleep

01:09:55.103 --> 01:09:58.923
he's got like he's poking you

01:09:58.923 --> 01:10:07.003
and giving your words is just oh my god so many so many things in my head.

01:10:10.823 --> 01:10:16.223
So no i'm curious as to like what your first experiment is going to be i don't

01:10:16.223 --> 01:10:20.523
know i've really got to think about this my first one probably should like write

01:10:20.523 --> 01:10:25.583
down what i think I think I'm dreaming, whether if it's a dream or not. Like, what if like.

01:10:26.163 --> 01:10:30.883
I have a recommendation. Okay.

01:10:31.703 --> 01:10:35.963
You lay down and you get set for bed, right? Mm-hmm.

01:10:36.823 --> 01:10:41.383
Have Brian take the sheets and blanket off of you. Mm-hmm.

01:10:42.843 --> 01:10:49.303
And kind of wrap, bubble wrap around you. Well, that's a good idea. Right?

01:10:49.503 --> 01:10:52.163
Yeah. And then put the blankets back on you, get yourself comfortable,

01:10:52.163 --> 01:10:53.723
and you just lay there and go to sleep.

01:10:54.023 --> 01:11:01.703
When you wake up, whatever, if there's any popped bubbles, you have to figure out where they're at.

01:11:01.843 --> 01:11:09.963
And if they're in any compromising spots, then you know if an incubus was trying to insert something.

01:11:10.143 --> 01:11:12.443
The only issue with that is I toss and turn a lot.

01:11:13.063 --> 01:11:16.583
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. I can just picture. Sounds like gunfire.

01:11:16.703 --> 01:11:18.823
I can just picture, like, I move, and it's like, pop, pop, pop,

01:11:18.823 --> 01:11:20.083
and then Brian's like, what the fuck?

01:11:20.603 --> 01:11:23.943
That'd be awesome. Okay, maybe bells? Same thing.

01:11:25.223 --> 01:11:29.743
All right. We're going to go back to medieval time. Get a chastity bells.

01:11:30.703 --> 01:11:34.063
Maybe that's really why those were invented. Right. To keep the demons away.

01:11:34.063 --> 01:11:38.663
Yeah. It reminds me of Robin Hood's Men in Tights. Men in Tights.

01:11:40.243 --> 01:11:42.763
Did you do that movie? Men in Tights. Yeah. Oh, such a great movie.

01:11:42.823 --> 01:11:44.963
I love that part. Such a great movie.

01:11:45.763 --> 01:11:48.023
It's like, she's got the chastity bell. And he goes, damn it.

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And then Dave Chappelle, his name is Achoo. He's like, a Jew here.

01:11:52.243 --> 01:11:54.883
And it's like, no, Achoo. Achoo.

01:11:56.043 --> 01:11:57.283
Oh, fucking great movie.

01:11:58.903 --> 01:12:02.603
So, Lynette, have you ever been visited by an incubus or succubus?

01:12:03.483 --> 01:12:07.243
I don't think so. Okay. The thing that was on my chest, I don't,

01:12:07.703 --> 01:12:10.583
similar to your mom's experience, it wasn't trying to have sex with me.

01:12:10.783 --> 01:12:13.303
No. I mean, does anyone? No. No.

01:12:14.863 --> 01:12:17.563
I mean, the closest was when your dog jumped on my back today.

01:12:19.203 --> 01:12:20.923
Haven't been hugged like that in a while laughing.

01:12:22.804 --> 01:12:26.644
I see we have a club of two now with no sex club.

01:12:28.344 --> 01:12:32.424
So I don't think I have either. I think I would, I would have told you guys

01:12:32.424 --> 01:12:33.824
this, like on episode one.

01:12:34.004 --> 01:12:37.304
You'd be so excited. I would, I would. You're going to get a t-shirt.

01:12:37.664 --> 01:12:41.864
Oh yeah. Last night. I was succubied. I was succubied.

01:12:42.224 --> 01:12:44.064
So you know, like when you go somewhere, it's like. And the back of your shirt

01:12:44.064 --> 01:12:45.584
says, last night I was incubied.

01:12:46.344 --> 01:12:49.164
It's like those shirts, like when you're like, I ate the kitchen sink.

01:12:49.304 --> 01:12:52.924
It's going to be like, I was visited by a succubi. I ate a succubi.

01:12:53.084 --> 01:12:54.324
You ate a succubi. You know what?

01:12:54.924 --> 01:12:58.324
That's a t-shirt idea. Yeah. The front and back.

01:12:58.584 --> 01:13:02.264
Yeah. I just got succubied. I just got incubied. I just got incubied.

01:13:02.404 --> 01:13:04.084
Yes. That's a t-shirt idea.

01:13:04.544 --> 01:13:09.404
Write that down. All right. All right. Anything else you ladies would like to add?

01:13:09.984 --> 01:13:15.364
Nope. I just can't wait to hear Bree's scientific results. Yeah. I can't either.

01:13:16.744 --> 01:13:21.724
I'm trying to think what else. Oh. No. No, you would get hurt.

01:13:21.904 --> 01:13:26.524
I was going to say, have some sort of electrical current running around that

01:13:26.524 --> 01:13:29.024
area. Yeah, no. Either I would have hurt, Brian.

01:13:30.384 --> 01:13:34.124
Yeah. We'll noodle on it. We'll get back to you. Yeah, yeah.

01:13:34.884 --> 01:13:38.464
Yeah, we're going to have to figure something out. I might have to pair no activity

01:13:38.464 --> 01:13:40.004
and put a camera in the corner.

01:13:40.244 --> 01:13:47.564
I really think we should go the chastity belt that has been blessed by someone. By the pulp?

01:13:47.824 --> 01:13:52.324
Sure. and if there's any mushroom-shaped burn marks.

01:13:57.264 --> 01:14:01.464
You're sending this one off the rails real fast. I'm surprised it took me this

01:14:01.464 --> 01:14:03.164
long. How many times I said the word sexual?

01:14:03.424 --> 01:14:06.344
Is it one of those fat mushrooms or are you going to be one of those skinny mushrooms?

01:14:06.804 --> 01:14:12.684
Only time will tell. Okay. Just so you know what to expect. Yeah, no. Pain. That's a pain.

01:14:13.624 --> 01:14:18.584
All right. All right. Well, thank you for staying with us, Trainwreck.

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My name is Frank. My name is Brie. And this is Lynette. And if you've had a

01:14:23.944 --> 01:14:26.884
succubus or incubus encounter, please email us.

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We want to hear your story. Yeah.

01:14:29.784 --> 01:14:35.164
Anyway, here's to another episode of Fringe. Beyond Limits.

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Music.