Why teach four fingered braking?

Around the Wheel with Bret Tkacs

WHY TEACH FOUR FINGERED BRAKING? Guest: David Weed, currently an MSF-certified RiderCoach and RiderCoach trainer and formerly the lead technical specialist for the Washington State Motorcycle Program. Episode Summary:Join us for a fascinating chat with David Weed, a certified RiderCoach and instructor trainer with the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF). We tackle the contentious issue of four-finger braking in motorcycling. Listen as David demystifies the myth of four-finger braking, highlighting its practicality, effectiveness, and role in the MSF curriculum. From his insights, you'll understand that while the MSF doesn't prescribe a specific number of fingers for braking, it is essential for riders to have the freedom to experiment and find the method that works best for them. David also brings to light the importance of effective communication in motorcycle training. We engage in an enlightening discussion about the necessity for instructors to be clear in their teachings. David underlines the significance of questioning our own beliefs and keeping abreast with the latest guidance as instructors, which makes for an intriguing listen. Finally, we venture into the realm of motorcycle safety and strategic thinking. Bret and David emphasizes the need for riders to make decisions based on their own experience and understanding of the motorcycle's response, rather than strictly adhering to instructions. In addition, we discuss the mental aspects of riding, providing insights that can help improve your riding experience. So tune in and be part of this enlightening conversation. And remember, our podcast doesn't have any advertisements or sponsors - we're all about sharing knowledge and engaging in discussion. Related Video: Does MSF Teach Four Finger Braking? 0:00:15 - Bret TkacsWelcome to Around the Wheel with Bret Tkacs and today my guest is David Weed, a fantastic rider and trainer. We're going to be discussing four fingered braking: When you should use it, if you should use it… if this is something that is just a myth in riding or if this is the standard. We're going to talk about strategies, how to improve as a rider or a trainer and just dive into some of the history and background of this particular topic. So, let's get started. Well, David, why don't you let our listeners know a little bit about yourself. Who are you?0:00:51 - David WeedMy name is David Weed. I am currently a RiderCoach and RiderCoach Trainer certified with MSF. I've been riding since about 2010, and I ride a fair amount of miles. I still feel kind of like I'm a beginner, to be honest, but I probably ride 15,000 to 20,000 miles a year; teach a lot of classes and then I was the Lead Technical Specialist for the state's motorcycle safety program in Washington for the Department of Licensing and led that program for about five or six years and currently, as I said, I am a RiderCoach Trainer with MSF.0:01:37 - Bret TkacsAnd for those of you who are listening, just to let you know that David isn’t just a RiderCoach Trainer. We've had a relationship - professional relationship, in the past and worked together in Washington State and in other avenues. Keep in mind, David is just talking from his point of view, from his perspective. He is not representing the MSF, or the Motorcycle Safety Foundation, and to best that, I've also spent a lot of time talking to those in other organizations, including Dr. Ray Ochs, who wrote the curricula that David teaches other instructors to teach, and the curricula that he teaches. So I'm actually kind of a step ahead.But, with that said, it's always fun to throw somebody under the bus as we get started. So here we go, David. I read all the time - comments and I hear instructors say, and I see things written. In fact, I have been on websites: Arizona has one of the schools there that put this on their website and they quote MSF and they say “we teach four fingered braking because that's what MSF teaches”.