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A place to share, learn and talk about ways to equip, encourage and empower students and student ministry leaders. We want to hear from EVERYONE involved in Student Ministry (and even some not in Student Ministry at all). Check out show notes, blog articles and merchandise at https://www.studentministryconversations.org
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We live in a world where our civilization and daily lives depend upon institutions, infrastructure, and technological substrates that are _complicated_ but not _unknowable_. Join Patrick McKenzie (patio11) as he discusses how decisions, technology, culture, and incentives shape our finance, technology, government, and more, with the people who built (and build) those Complex Systems.
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Ross Rheingans-Yoo to discuss drug development and clinical trials. Ross breaks down how drugs progress from academic research through FDA approval, the challenging economics, and the many systemic inefficiencies in the current approval process. Patrick and Ross discuss historical cases like …
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Welcome to this weeks episode where David sits down with Brett Patterson and Colby Hill, two youth pastors that are friends and work together in ministry even though they are roughly an hour a part in the churches they serve, as they talk about working collaboratively in Youth Ministry with other youth groups and the importance of community between…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by economist and fraud researcher Professor Jetson Luis-Leder to examine the systemic issues underlying government program fraud. Jetson and Patrick discuss healthcare fraud cases, including hospice eligibility manipulation and ambulance transport schemes, and other fraud practices against unemp…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Micah sits down with Billy Spriggs, host of the Firebrand show on the Christian Television Network (CTN), as they talk about his time with Hillsong and transitioning from an unhealthy environment to a healthy one. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talk…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Moses Kagan, co-founder of Adaptive Realty, ReSeed, and Reconvene. Their deep dive into real estate investing and property management covers the different classes of apartment buildings, the challenges of property management, and the complexities of financing structures in the industry. They …
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Melissa sits down with David Herbst, the Associate Pastor at Lytle Baptist Church in Abilene, Texas, to talk about developing rhythms of Godly Disciplines in your everyday life. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we w…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) and Erik Torenberg, investor and the media entrepreneur behind Turpentine, explore the evolving relationship between tech journalism and the industry it covers. They discuss how fictional portrayals of industries greatly inform how jobseekers understand those industries, and how the industries understand …
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Brent sits down with Mike Donehey, the lead singer of Tenth Avenue North, to talk about finding God's presence in all things and how we, especially in the church, need to continue to frame our focus to avoid losing heart in ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in …
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by his father, Jim McKenzie, for an intimate and in depth exploration of commercial real estate development. They unravel the complex web of relationships, regulations, and often absurd situations that shape our built environment. From the intricacies of curb cuts and driveway permits to the art of navigating lo…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Brent sits down with Vernon King Jr., the author of the new book "The Intimacy & Sex Conversation" to talk through current research and trends when it comes to teens and encountering sexual trends in the culture around them. It also covers how pastors and parents need to be navigating the waters of these conversa…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined again by Byrne Hobart, writer of The Diff, for a follow up conversation about “whales” – and so much more – across the gaming, aviation, software, hospitality and fast food industries. Patrick and Byrne also discuss their writing process, knowledge management, and how they use AI tools. – Full transcript availab…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where David and Ross King sit down to talk about the story behind his new song "I Don't Know" and how it relates to our walks as Christians dealing with people that need extra grace and patience through the process of loving our neighbor. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in a…
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In this episode of Complex Systems, Patrick McKenzie (aka @Patio11) is joined by Dave Guarino, a software engineer and policy wonk. They explore the complexities and challenges of public programs, focusing on SNAP aka CalFresh in California, where Dave was the founding engineer and then director. They discuss how society’s complex preferences becom…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Micah and Michael Kubis, Michael and his wife, Rachel, serve as U.S. Missionaries for Youth Alive in the states of Pennsylvania and Delaware. In his role, Michael encourages, empowers, and equips teens in the local church to share the good news of Jesus Christ in their schools and beyond. They sit down to talk ab…
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In this episode of Complex System, the tables are turned and media entrepreneur/investor Erik Torenberg interviews Patrick McKenzie (patio11) about the intricacies of the financial system, focusing on banking, money laundering, and regulatory compliance. They discuss several of Patrick’s essays from Bits About Money. Patrick discusses the three sta…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Melissa sits down with Anapaula Martinez, the Associate Youth Director and Middle School Coordinator at Kingwood Methodist Church. They sit down to talk about the importance of having unification as a youth ministry team starting with the Holy Spirit, how their team built that, what to do to gain that without sta…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Dave Kasten, to discuss their experiences building VaccinateCA, a charitable effort that collected, collated, and distributed vaccine distribution information during the COVID-19 pandemic. (If you Googled for the vaccine, the search results likely came from VaccinateCA’s data.) They cover the…
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Brent sits down with Rick Eubanks, the Texas State Coordinator for the National Network of Youth Ministries. They sit down to talk about the different opportunities to get your students involved in sharing their faith at school and specifically focus on See You At The Pole and the history behind it. Whether you a…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Austin Vernon, a petroleum engineer, to discuss the technology and economics of fracking. Austin explains the evolution of drilling technology, the financial ecosystem supporting the oil industry – including the unique "doctor and lawyer money" funding model – and the complex interplay of mineral rights laws …
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Welcome to this weeks episode where Melissa sits down with Worship Pastor Justin Miller to talk about the grind of chasing what God has called you to do while having to work for a living in other jobs. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also lo…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Dan Davies, author of Lying for Money, and The Unaccountability Machine. They discuss how cybernetics–the study of control and communication in complex systems–applies to modern organizations and decision-making. Dan and Patrick discuss how organizations change as they grow, financial fraud a…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Shama Mrema as they talk about humor, authenticity and building relationships. Hopefully this episode makes you laugh and inspires you to continue to work on your relational skills with your students. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see wha…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Casey Handmer, rocket scientist turned CEO of Terraform Industries. Casey discusses the rapid advancements in solar power, the bureaucratic challenges of NASA, the incomprehensible success of SpaceX, and the evolving energy landscape. Casey touches on his experiences at JPL revealing how the organization’s fe…
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This week's episode is a little different. Brent just drops in briefly to share a quick note about volunteers and how you can build and encourage them in your ministry as well as use them as fuel for growing your volunteer base. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's e…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Zvi Mowshowitz (TheZvi) to discuss his wide-ranging career as a professional Magic: The Gathering player, sports gambler, equities trader, public intellectual on the covid-19 epidemic, and AI-focused journalist. They go into depth on how trading happens in less formal markets with lessons tha…
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Welcome to this week's episode where David sits down with Brent Aiken, co-host of the SMC Podcast and Youth Pastor at Wylie Methodist Church in Abilene, Texas, as they talk about the the ins and outs of preparing for the upcoming semester and going through five of the things that you need to be doing to prep for the Fall. Whether you are a young or…
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In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Stephen Grugett, a co-founder of Manifold, to discuss prediction markets. They cover how prediction markets work, their efficiency in aggregating information, and why they serve as a minority report against prevailing narratives. They cover past controversies, potential risks, and the philoso…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Melissa sits down with Christina Prim, the Youth Outreach, Discipleship, and Media Coordinator at House of Faith in Abilene, Texas, as they talk about the process of bringing the big idea from the meeting to the implementation of it through the church. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love f…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Kelsey Piper, a journalist for Vox’s Future Perfect. Kelsey recently reported on equity irregularities at OpenAI in May of 2024, leading to an improvement of their policies in this area. We discuss the social function of equity in the technology industry, why the tech industry and reporters have had a frosty …
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Brett Patterson, the youth pastor at St John's Methodist in Stamford, Texas, to talk about the spirituals highs that a camper experiences throughout different activities and how to look for and discern the different between the students that changed behavior for the week and the students tha…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Byrne Hobart to discuss Byrne’s vantage point as writer of The Diff, a tech and finance newsletter. Byrne explains the toxicity of the 30-year mortgage, the dynamics of the finance newsletter ecosystem, how rationalist epistemics can be applied to hedge funds, and the joy of learning about an industry from sc…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Micah sits down with Eran Holt, the founder and president of Lead The Generation. tackle the subject of Biblical literacy. They talk about how it is crucial in youth ministry because it provides young people with a solid foundation of faith, enabling them to understand and live out Christian principles. It helps…
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Patrick McKenzie (patio11) and Ricki Heicklen discuss Ricki’s innovative approaches to teaching trading. Trading is traditionally taught only by practitioners, to practitioners. The curricula that trading firms use are not published externally, to avoid empowering competitors. Ricki explains how she teaches trade mechanics, how markets and traders …
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Welcome to this week's episode where David sits down with John Simmons, the Campus Pastor at Rush Creek Church in Mansfield, Texas. They come together to talk about church planting and how to go about it if God is calling you in that direction. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked ab…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Melissa sits down with Kevin Libick, a 25-year student ministry veteran in Fort Worth, Texas. He currently leads a team of amazing Christ Chapel Bible Church staff and leaders. They come together to talk about Community Building over Production value. Is that a trend? What did Covid have to do with it? How do yo…
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Welcome to this week's episode where David sits down with Tyler Looney, the pastor at First Methodist Sweetwater, Texas, as they talk about how to handle and manage insecurities in your personal life, family and ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode …
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Chris Hurt, the youth pastor at First Baptist Church in Frisco, Texas, as they talking about personally having and creating a culture of joy in your ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and w…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Micah sits down with Christopher Merrill, the Youth and Connections Pastor at Wrightville Assembly of God, as they talk about being authentic in Youth Ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also love t…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Mike McGarry, youth pastor and founder of Youth Pastor Theologian, as they talk about the importance of thinking theologically in Youth Ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also …
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Welcome to this week's episode where David sits down with his wife, Kelcie Pruitt, as they talk about what it's like to be married and serve together in Youth Ministry and how being married affects Youth Ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we w…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Melissa sits down with David Jewitt, the Associate Pastor at New Hope Church in Abilene, Texas, as they talk about the biblical aspect of tithing and how that affects you as a staff person. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's epi…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Micah sits down with Carrie Roberts, the Youth Pastor at Connection Church in Pottstown, PA, as they talk about creating a family-type culture in Youth Ministry and why that's important to prioritize. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in …
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Mike Haynes, youth pastor of 10+ years and founder of GShades Curriculum, as they talk about how to evaluate the different youth ministry curriculums that are available and why you should test them out to fit your ministry BEFORE you use them. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we …
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Welcome to this week's episode where David sits down with Josh Green, the Student Pastor at Colonial Hill Baptist Church in Snyder, Texas, as they talk about different ways to eliminate the sense of rush and hurry from your life and ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked abou…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Melissa sits down with a few students from McMurry University to talk about the importance of communication with other cultures and traditions and how we have to connect on a basis of conversation. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in tod…
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**THIS IS THE FINAL EPISODE OF SEASON 3!**Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Steve Cullum to talk about the current state of youth groups across the country and dealing with the cultural climate. They aim to discuss the question of "Where do we go from here?"Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you t…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Dave Choutka to talk about the times of walking through valleys in ministry whether due to just tough ministry situations or church hurt. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also love to …
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Welcome to this week's episode where Micah sits down with Scott Nagle to talk about the importance of small groups in your ministry and how to effectively use them in your ministry. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would also love to hear from you!…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Brandon Best to talk about staying in Youth Ministry for the long haul and growing old in the process. They talk about what foundations need to be built in order to prepare for longevity as well as what to avoid in the process. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for y…
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Welcome to this week's episode where Brent sits down with Shawn Kirkland to talk about student led Jesus groups and how you can challenge and equip your students to get one started on their school campuses. Whether you are a young or old youth pastor, we would love for you to listen in and see what is talked about in today's episode and we would al…
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