The Penny & Pops Podcast is hosted by Adam Papageorgiou (Pops) and Spenser Strode (Penny). All matters Orlando Magic basketball are discussed. The opinions expressed are local and strong. This is the longest running podcast (since 2009) dedicated to talking Orlando Magic basketball. We are the two most knowledgeable people when it comes to Orlando Magic history that you can listen to. We aim to present unique viewpoints that you won't find in traditional media outlets. We want to bring a pas ...
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134. Wagner Brothers into the Semifinals
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Germany got off to a rough start in their 2024 Paris Olympics quarterfinal matchup with Greece. They don’t win that game without Moritz Wagner’s bench energy and Franz Wagner’s great second half. Germany are on their way to Thursday’s semifinals to face FIBA Evan Fournier, Victor Wembanyama and a rejuvenated France team.All of that and more!#LetsGo…
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133. Wagner Brothers into the Olympic Quarterfinals
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We’re into the month of August. Magic training camp is September 30th, so we’re not too far away from that. Hopefully you’re watching and enjoying these Paris Olympics to help make the time pass. A lot of electric events already. We are of course on Wagner Watch. Germany went 3-0 in Group B play, taking down Japan, Brazil, and the hyped up hosts Fr…
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132. Wagner Watch: Olympic Medal Hunting
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Wagner Watch 2024. Franz and Mo are again with the German men’s basketball national team. This time at the Paris Olympics. They’re our only current 2 Magic players participating in this two-week tourney. Two years ago Germany won bronze at EuroBasket in Germany. Last year they upset the U.S. on their way to winning gold in the Philippines at the Wo…
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131. Weltman Stays Conservative; Pat Williams Passes Away
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A lot has happened over the past month. The Magic drafted Tristan da Silva who looked great at Vegas Summer League. Orlando signed Kentavious Caldwell-Pope from the Nuggets. We re-signed a lot of our own guys, but we sadly let Joe Ingles and Markelle Fultz go. Franz Wagner rightfully got a max rookie contract extension. With that said, Jeff Weltman…
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130. Draft Week, One Week Until Free Agency
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It’s Draft week. June 26th and 27th. Then on June 30th free agency begins. As expected, there’s a lot of chatter but no certainty about what’s going to happen from an Orlando Magic perspective. Could Goga Bitadze be returning? Could the Magic actually use both of their draft picks?Klay Thompson, Paul George, Malik Monk, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Br…
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129. Magic Summer Trade & Free Agency Targets and Rumors
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This episode is dedicated to looking at the 29 other NBA teams’ rosters. Who the Magic have been linked to via rumors (newsflash: it’s already a lot, agents are using the Magic as negotiation leverage). Which players should be talked about more as a potential Orlando summer trade or free agency targets, and putting together realistic acquisition po…
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128. Performance Review of the 2023-2024 Roster; Who Goes?
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We hope Magic fans have been able to decompress since the Magic’s 2023-2024 campaign concluded. This episode is about discussing all the players on the roster. How they did. Which players will be back next season? Who do we and don’t want back? Because to bring in players via trade and free agency, we’re going to have to say goodbye to some. All of…
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127. Magic Lose Game 7 in Cleveland; Awesome 35th Season Ends
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It was a very fun ride. But the ride ended Sunday as the Orlando Magic lost Game 7 in Cleveland. Yes the Magic were up 18 in the second period and it went bad from there with the Cavs making a historic comeback. But our young core got some massive experience moving forward. This 35th Magic season all-time is going to rank highly. Could easily argue…
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126. Hocus Pocus; Magic Win to Force Game 7
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Powered by 20+ points each from Paolo Banchero, Franz Wagner, and Jalen Suggs, Orlando’s young core held off a 50-point deluge from Donovan Mitchell and defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers inside Kia Center 103-96 in Game 6. Mitchell apparently scored the Cavs’ final 22 points in the contest. It doesn’t matter because the Magic have forced a Game 7 up…
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125. Magic Lose Cleveland Thriller, Trail Series 3-2; Game 6 Orlando Preview
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We finally got a close game in this series. Unfortunately, the Magic lost Game 5 in Cleveland 104-103 on Tuesday night. Paolo Banchero had another absurd superstar performance. Orlando is learning some great lessons from this Cavaliers series. Now it’s win or go home on Friday. The Magic are down 3-2 in the series. Bring it, Orlando. Why Jarrett Al…
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124. There’s a Spirit in Orlando; 2-2 as Magic Return to Cleveland for Game 5
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There is a spirit in Orlando, and Magic in our town. It’s a 2-2 series, as the Magic win these past two home games by 60+ points combined. And now the pressure is back on Cleveland to hold serve for Game 5. But this young Magic team is doing things it hasn’t done in over a dozen years. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner are breaking NBA records one ga…
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123. Magic Lose Game 2 in Cleveland; 0-2 Coming Back to Orlando
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The Orlando Magic lost Game 2 in Cleveland 96-86. Cavs hold a 2-0 series lead. Both losses had similar problems: bad first quarter starts, bad 3-point shooting, not enough guard scoring contributions, some shaky coaching player rotation choices, our guards leaving our bigs hanging out to dry defending the paint, and not being able to score enough i…
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122. Magic Drop Game 1 in Cleveland
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The Orlando Magic dropped Game 1 of their Eastern Conference first round playoff series in Cleveland against the Cavaliers. There were some first game postseason jitters, but the Magic had chances to win the game. Just need to hit shots. Other than Paolo Banchero, Franz Wagner, and Moritz Wagner, the rest of Jamahl Mosley’s 10-man rotation didn’t d…
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121. Magic-Cavaliers Playoff Series Preview
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It’s here. Cleveland Cavaliers-Orlando Magic. Playoff series preview. We’re looking for our first series win since 2010. Cavs are looking to get to the second round for the first time since 2018. It’s the second time they’re facing each other ever in the postseason (2009 Eastern Conference Finals being the other). Reviewing the 2-2 regular season m…
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120. Reviewing Season Predictions; Playoff Schedule Released
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As the Orlando Magic prepare for their first-round playoff series against the Cleveland Cavaliers, we look back on the October predictions we made for the 2023-2024 NBA regular season. Awards, playoffs or not, team MVP, trades, over/under guesses, and beyond. Orlando’s team slogan for the postseason is #EverybodyIn. The NBA finally released the Mag…
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119. …and NEW Southeast Division Champions; Orlando Clinches 5th Seed; Magic 47-35
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The Orlando Magic are playoffs bound for the first time since 2020! The Magic concluded the 2023-2024 regular season 47-35. They will face the 4th seed Cleveland Cavaliers in the first round of the postseason. As the 5th seed, this is the highest playoff seed the Magic have been since 2011. Orlando now seeks to win its first playoff series since 20…
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118. Third Seed; Final Week of Jockeying; Magic 46-32
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The Orlando Magic are 46-32. Currently the 3rd seed in the East as the scoreboard and schedule watching has been insane. There 4 games left in the regular season. Injuries to Franz Wagner and Jonathan Isaac have potentially complicated matters, as the Magic are just one game back of the 2nd seed, yet could realistically still fall into the play-in.…
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117. Gaining Big Game Experience; Mosley Extension; Magic 42-29
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The Orlando Magic are 42-29. Currently the 5th seed in the East, with a top-6 playoff spot still very attainable with eleven games remaining in the regular season. Head Coach Jamahl Mosley received a very well earned four-year coaching extension. Why the newer style of NBA officiating should help the Magic long-term. The Anthony Black-Gradey Dick j…
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116. Fourth Seed; Home Court Advantage in Play; Magic 37-26
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The Orlando Magic are 37-26, currently the 4th seed in the East, winners of 5 games in a row (longest streak in the NBA at the moment), 13 of our last 16 games. Orlando is taking advantage of a favorable portion of its schedule and are arguably the hottest team in the league. Not only are the Magic on pace to finish with a top-6 Eastern Conference …
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115. The Sprint; All-Star Weekend; Shaq Jersey Retirement; Magic 30-25
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The Orlando Magic went from a tumbleweed trade deadline. To a Shaq jersey retirement that was almost perfect. To the All-Star Break where Paolo Banchero pulled off a tripleheader of Indianapolis participation. To Mac McClung and Trevelin Queen bringing back hardware for the Osceola Magic. To now, here we go, the Orlando Magic are 30-25 entering thi…
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114. Trade Deadline Expectations; Orlando’s Own Death Lineup; Magic 27-24
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The Orlando Magic are 27-24 after a disappointingly bad defeat in Miami to conclude a 3-2 road trip. That was the last game going into the Thursday February 8th NBA trade deadline. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner had amazing moments on this 5-game road trip, but there are pain points with this roster. Although the team appears to have a ‘death line…
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113. Paolo the 21-Year-Old All-Star! Magic Survive Rough January; Orlando 25-23
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The Orlando Magic are 25-23 after enduring the challenging month of January. Orlando is still over .500 as a new month and hopefully less difficult schedule enters the picture. The Magic are the 8th seed in the East, but can easily still surpass Miami and win the Southeast division title. 21-year-old Paolo Banchero, in his 2nd NBA season, just got …
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112. Dispatch from NYC: Magic Win in MSG on MLK Day; Orlando 22-18
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The Orlando Magic are 22-18 after a thrilling comeback win in New York City inside Madison Square Garden on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Pops was there in person. The Mecca really is a phenomenal place to watch NBA basketball games. Describing the MSG experience. Paolo Banchero is still phenomenal. The Magic are getting some healthy bodies back …
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111. Paolo the Star; Injuries; Jersey Retirements; Kill Center; Magic 20-15
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The Orlando Magic are 20-15 and in the middle of a brutal portion of its schedule while being decimated by injuries and illness, but that’s OK because Paolo Banchero is a star. The 21-year-old is almost a lock to be an All-Star in February, and he just had back-to-back insane performances: A career-high 43-point game in a double overtime loss in Sa…
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110. Continue Being Greedy; Magic 15-7
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This is arguably the best Magic fans have felt about their team since 2010-2011 before the Hawks upset Orlando in the first round of that playoffs. Magic are 15-7, protecting home court so far, and still are the 2nd seed in the East as of this recording. Orlando has two studs in Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner each averaging 20.7 ppg. In our franch…
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109. Orlando Beats Down Boston; Magic are 11-5; Top-6 Seed the Goal
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The Orlando Magic are currently 11-5 with the second best record in the Eastern Conference after beating the defending champion Denver Nuggets and then the Boston Celtics in consecutive home games. Thank you, Celtics fans, for your revenue. This is the franchise’s best start to a season since the Dwight Howard era. This might be the best defensive …
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108. Magic 2023-2024 Season Predictions; Cole Anthony Extended
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In a pleasantly surprising announcement, Cole Anthony signed a 3-year, $39 million contract extension to remain in Orlando. No one thought the Magic would retain Cole for only $13 million per season.This episode is dedicated to 2023-2024 season predictions. Over/under 37.5 victories? How many wins? Will the Magic make the playoffs? Will Orlando hav…
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107. Magic Thoughts After Preseason; Tibbetts Gone
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The 2023 preseason concluded with the Orlando Magic going 3-1. The win-loss record doesn’t matter. It’s all about how players looked and any lingering problems with guys on the roster. Is there concern for the rookies? Is everything OK with Paolo Banchero? Should Jalen Suggs be starting over Gary Harris?Head Coach Jamahl Mosley begins an important …
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106. Is Wendell Carter Jr. a Top 10 NBA Center?
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In a current media atmosphere culture that wants to rank everything, it’s quite difficult to accomplish that in an NBA era where position-less basketball is becoming the norm. However, it is still possible to look at positions such as center. Is Wendell Carter Jr. a top 10 NBA center? Ignore the contract. Because if the contract was factored in, WC…
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105. Orlando Magic 2023 Preseason Begins
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Media day and training camp are behind us. There are now 4 Orlando Magic preseason games to play before the 2023–2024 regular season begins. Talking about the main 15-man roster. Expectations. What we want to see? Lingering questions. Who starts at SG between Gary Harris and Jalen Suggs? How will Anthony Black and Jett Howard find minutes on the fl…
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104. Magic Throwback Stars Jerseys Return; World Champs Franz and Moritz
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Orlando Magic Media Day and training camp begin in two weeks. The team finally revealed their throwback blue stars jerseys. Great to see guys like Rashard Lewis and Ryan Anderson back in town for that event. Franz and Moritz Wagner are World Champions! They helped lead Germany to winning the 2023 FIBA World Cup. Why winning gold is the biggest bask…
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103. USA and Germany Advance to Paolo v. Wagner Brothers Semifinal World Cup Showdown
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Team USA took care of Italy in the FIBA World Cup quarterfinals. Paolo Banchero got to squash some Italian beef in victory. The reigning Rookie of the Year award winner on Friday next gets to face Franz and Moritz Wagner in the semifinals as Germany remain the only undefeated team in the tournament by surviving and defeating Latvia on Wednesday. It…
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102. Team USA Loses; Wagners Undefeated; Paolo v. Italy Quarterfinal Next
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Team USA and Paolo Banchero just suffered their first loss at the hands of Lithuania but are still moving onto the quarterfinals. The US also earned their automatic ticket into the 2024 Paris Olympics (as did Canada). We cannot get a Paolo v. Wagner brothers World Cup final, that dream died. The Wagner brothers are 5-0 heading into the quarterfinal…
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101. All Five Magic Players Advance to FIBA World Cup Second Phase
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A 2023 FIBA World Cup update as all 5 Orlando Magic players advanced into the second phase. Paolo Banchero (USA), Franz and Moritz Wagner (Germany), Joe Ingles (Australia), and Goga Bitadze (Georgia) each are into the second group stage. The tournament has gone from 32 down to 16 teams. Four teams in 4 groups. Each team plays games September 1st an…
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100. Magic Schedule Release and 2023 FIBA World Cup Preview
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Going over the Orlando Magic’s 2023-2024 NBA schedule that was recently released. The in-season tournament wrinkle. Awful fan road trip opportunities. Then getting into the 2023 FIBA World Cup preview. The tournament is taking place in the Philippines, Japan, and Indonesia August 25-September 10. All games can be watched on ESPN+. The Magic have 5 …
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99. Summer Calm Before the FIBA Storm
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Final Summer League thoughts. The Magic brought back Admiral Schofield. Orlando made a curious draft picks trade with the Phoenix Suns. Orlando will be heading to Mexico this season because the Magic on November 9th will play the Atlanta Hawks in Mexico City. The Pascal Siakam rumor is odd. The Magic have 5 players (Paolo Banchero, Franz and Moritz…
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98. Ingles In, Moe and Goga Return; Bol, MCW, Admiral Out; Front Office Changes; Summer League
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Considering that Joe Ingles was the only new free agent addition to Orlando, it’s been a pretty busy July for Magic fans already. Bol Bol, Michael Carter-Williams, and Admiral Schofield are gone. Moritz Wagner and Goga Bitadze are back. Our front office is going through some shuffling, and Summer League is ongoing. The Magic again demonstrate promo…
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97. Black, Another Howard; It’s OK to Question WeltHamm
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Observations from the 2023 NBA Draft Amway Center watch party. It did not go how we wanted it to for the Orlando Magic. We took Anthony Black with the 6th pick, then Jett Howard at 11. We are not happy, and a lot of Magic fans also are unhappy. Cam Whitmore and Taylor Hendricks were available at 6th. The 11th pick had other options like Whitmore, J…
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96. Draft Week; Planning Out Moves of Fellow Lottery Teams
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Miami got denied the championship and now it’s NBA Draft week. Last year, the Orlando Magic had the #1 pick, we controlled the board. Now at 6, 11, and 36, on top of figuring out which players you like or which veterans you’d rather trade for, there’s this chess board dance of figuring out what the other teams should or are doing. There are already…
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95. Magic Have Picks 6, 11, and 36; Draft Preferences; Scanning Every Team for FAs and Trades
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After an interesting NBA Draft Lottery, we now know the Magic have picks 6, 11, and 36 for the June 22nd 2023 NBA Draft. So no Victor Wembanyama for Orlando. This is where WeltHamm really go to work because there’s a lot of scenarios that can happen. Trade picks for established players, trade up, trade back and accumulate more assets, or they can s…
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94. Draft Lottery is Here; Paolo Wins ROTY, Unanimous All-Rookie First-Teamer
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The Magic on Tuesday night have a chance to strike gold again in the NBA Draft Lottery with potentially two picks. Two years ago we got a stud in Franz Wagner and Jalen Suggs might end up being really good still, last year we landed the #1 pick and took Paolo Banchero, which looks like the right decision by far to date. Now it’s the Victor Wembanya…
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93. No Play-in No Problem; Magic Conclude Season 34-48; Reviewing Predictions
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The Magic made it into April still competing for the play-in. This time last week we were still alive in the play-in chase. That’s outstanding player growth considering Orlando is one of the youngest teams in the league. The Magic fell short of the play-in but didn’t tank until the final 3 games, displaying a bright future ahead, and finishing thei…
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92. You’re Not Dead Until I Tell You; 32-43 Magic
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The Magic just went 3-0 on this homestand. The math for the play-in isn’t great for Orlando because Chicago, Toronto, and Atlanta keep winning just enough. It’s a 2% chance. That’s OK though, because we’re playing well and we’ll get into April still technically in the play-in hunt. Orlando has won 10 games more than last season already. Win-loss wi…
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91. Another Isaac Surgery; MCW In; 27-39 Magic
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Seeing a lot of the Magic fan base down at the moment. Orlando can’t seem to string a win streak together and we haven’t made up ground in the play-in chase. We’ve lost ground after a disappointing home loss to the Bucks who were without Giannis Antetokounmpo and Jrue Holiday. Jonathan Isaac had another lower body surgical procedure and is out for …
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90. The Sprint Begins; Hampton, Bamba, Ross Out; Goga In; All-Star Break; 24-35 Magic
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We’re just about done with the All-Star Break. Orlando has made some roster changes. The Magic are together again practicing for Thursday’s game. Hope you all took a deep breath, because it’s time for that final 23-game sprint to try and sneak into the play-in. Trade deadline discussion. Mo Bamba to the Lakers. Goga Bitadze signed as a free agent. …
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89. Trade Deadline Rumors and Trade Machine Scenarios; 22-33 Magic
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The Magic lost an intense home game 102-98 to the New York Knicks. It had playoff vibes. Orlando enters the February 9th NBA Trade Deadline 22-33 and just 3 games out of a play-in spot. We discuss trade rumors, trade machine ideas, and more! Paolo Banchero won Rookie of the Month again, this time for January. Paolo and Franz Wagner were just select…
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88. Dispatch from Philadelphia Part Two: Orlando Couldn’t Buy a Trey; 20-32 Magic
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The Magic lost Wednesday night to the Sixers 105-94. Splitting this two-game series in Philly. At least the Magic again denied 76ers fans free chicken. We were there at the Wells Fargo Center, enjoying awesome seats. If the Magic could buy a 3-pointer, they would’ve taken this game. Jameer Nelson was there. The Markelle Fultz heckler was not. The N…
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87. Dispatch from Philadelphia Part One: No Free Chicken; Fultz’s Revenge; 20-31 Magic
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Recorded in a 2-bedroom apartment in the city center of Philadelphia, the Magic just came back from 21 points down to beat the red-hot 76ers in Philly at the Wells Fargo Center. The Sixers had won 7 consecutive games, 9-1 in their last ten. The Magic ended that. We were there to witness it! We drove to Philly to be there for the week. Markelle Fult…
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86. Orlando Owns Boston as Isaac Returns; Defensive Inconsistency; 18-29 Magic
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The story in January has been simple for the now 18-29 Magic: Play defense and you win. Don’t defend and you’re getting crushed. Keep it 115 points and below and we’re in each game. Let opponents score more than 115 and we’re cooked. The return of Jonathan Isaac may help solve this problem as we’re 1-0 with JI on the floor.We’ve won 8 of our last 1…
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85. All Hopeful on the Western Front; Lakeland Isaac; Resolutions for Every Magic Man
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Happy New Year, Magic fans. The Magic are 16-26 and only three games out of the play-in. We’ve had a good start to this Western Conference road trip. 2-1 with two more games against Utah and Denver coming. Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner are a phenomenal duo already, and the basketball world is noticing. We give out resolutions to the Magic roster.…
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