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The Fox and the Phoenix

Savannah Hauk, Author & Julie Rubenstein, Style Consultant

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Understanding the Feminine Crossdressing Experience To de-mystify, humanize, and celebrate the crossdressing trans community, providing a positive and realistic understanding through conversation between a crossdresser and a cis-ally.
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For leather nerds! The finest leather, boots, shoes, bags, raw denim, drinks, watches, and more. Leather tannery veterans Nick Horween (5th generation, Horween Leather) and Phil Kalas (Founder, Ashland Leather) cover manufacturing, leather, boots, denim, everyday carry and the talented people who are creating the world's finest products. Get the inside scoop and a greater understanding for high quality goods with a new episode released every week.
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In this episode, Julie brings a recent event to Savannah and to the conversation. While on a shopping trip, a sparkly denim jacket called out to Julie several times, but she hesitated to commit to the purchase. After some internal dialogue, she decided to buy it. Instead of worrying about what others may think or say about the jacket to be worn at …
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Jonathan Ward (ICON 4x4) is an industrial designer and bespoke crafter of vehicles, clothing and leather goods. Jonathan shares his approach and philosophy when making things, and teaches us the importance of being passionate about what you do. ICON 4x4 https://www.icon4x4.com/ TLC 4x4 https://www.tlc4x4.com/ J Ward Collection https://www.instagram…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie talk about the 2024 Paris Olympics and the social media mania and outcry about its opening ceremonies, the Turkish shootist Yusef Dikeç, and the insane amount of animosity aimed toward Algerian female boxer, Imane Khelif. From being labeled transgender and unfit to compete with the other women boxers, to rehashin…
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In this episode, Savannah asks Judy what she has learned after being with a queer person for a decade. From living a life with a vague understanding of gays and drag queens in NYC, Judy was thrust into the LGBTQIA+ community once she said 'yes' to dating a crossdresser. After 10 years, Judy has come to understand that there is so much openness, acc…
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Horween Tanner, Esteban Perez, explains drying methods and leather finishing. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life. Ashland Leather has you covered. https://ashlandleather.com/ The world's finest leather. Check our Horween Leather.…
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In this episode, Julie reads a direct message from a woman named Juni, who shared her appreciation of a previous episode, 'Passing Milestones', which focused on the fact that gender diverse people tend to come out to loved one and close confidents more than once. She also shared that Julie and Savannah didn't speak much about sharing with one's chi…
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Stitchdown's writer, Zaid Hintzman, asks the best questions for boot fans interested in Horween leather. Nick and Phil explain the features and characteristics in many Horween leathers including shell cordovan, Horsebutt veg, CXL, Predator and more. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wa…
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In this episode, Julie reads a Facebook post from a lovely listener who spoke beautifully about the dating scene for a transwoman over 50-years-old and divorced after 30 years of marriage. The dating scene is different. The way to find your One is different. And, above all else, have any of us found that well of love for ourselves that will help ra…
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In this episode, Savannah shares with Julie an odd experience about trying on Shein dresses with Judy looking on as a spectator. When Judy offered her opinions about the dresses once tried on, Savannah found herself feeling a bit sad. The reason? The same as any kid on Christmas morning or any woman excited to try on their Amazon purchases, there i…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie read listener-submitted comments on the topic of important milestones that gender diverse MTF individuals have achieved in their lives. From the first time going out into the public eye to sharing their authenticity with a partner or family to taking those crucial next steps in matching one's body to one's mind, …
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Horween Tanner, Esteban Perez, explains leather tanning and retanning. Leave your tanning and finishing questions in the YouTube comments. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life. Ashland Leather has you covered. https://ashlandleathe…
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In this episode, Savannah finds herself gushing to Julie about meeting somebody famous. That famous somebody had reached out to Savannah because they feel Savannah is also 'famous' in the community and is the right individual to confide in and get advice about their gender authenticity. How does a person embrace their gender authenticity when they …
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Dean Delray is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, design lover and jacket collector. https://www.deandelray.com/ https://www.instagram.com/deandelray/?hl=en https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life. Ashland Leather has you covered. https:…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss one of their favorite supporters and friends, Crystal aka 'Jellyfish'. This time around, Crystal shared with Savannah an encounter where she spoke to a cousin who not only admitted that they used to dress up in feminine clothes but also thought they 'were a girl'. Now, thought, through the Word of God, th…
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Nick Horween and Phil Kalas answer your most pressing leather questions. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life. Ashland Leather has you covered. https://ashlandleather.com/ The world's finest leather. Check our Horween Leather. http…
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In this episode, Savannah shares with Julie her experience of having a facial while dressed as Savannah. Not only was Savannah dressed for her first facial, but also traveled to the appointment without any makeup. Afterward, Savannah took a pic of herself after the facial and without makeup, realizing that she still saw Savannah staring back at her…
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Nick and Phil explore the similarities and differences of Shell Cordovan and Horween’s Essex leather. Both leathers are tanned using the same blend of tree barks. Horween’s Essex leather can also be finished into other products including Horween’s Dublin and Derby. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrain…
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In this episode, Savannah tells Julie about two specific events that happened a week apart but included the same life lesson. The first was an author event that Savannah (as Chuck) was a part of. The second was a conversation with one of Chuck's work colleague that included the fact that the coworker found Savannah Hauk on social media and realized…
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Nick explains why leather is the choice material for professional NBA basketball and NFL football players. Phil and Nick discuss material options and compare leather and plastic choices. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Get a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life. Ashlan…
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In this episode, Savannah asks Judy the question, "Why do women like to wear their partner's clothes? And, why is that okay and MTF crossdressing isn't?" Well, it wasn't that pointed or loaded a question, but it does raise the question of why there are completely common-place and socially accepted manner of quote-unquote crossdressing while those o…
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In this episode, Julie asks Savannah if she wants to chat about that often-misunderstood, a considered-fringed sub-culture called furries (or fur-dom, or the furry lifestyle). Why do people gravitate to the Furry culture? How did it start? What are the benefits and disadvantages within the community? Is it all fetish and sex? All of Julie's questio…
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In this episode, Savannah tells Julie another Keystone story, this time the story of Diane and her battle with catastrophic success. What happens when you've been fighting for your true identity your entire life and you make a mental or written plan to finally take all the steps needed to get there. What happens when you find peace several steps be…
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First tanned in 1940, Timber Tanned Calf is a legacy leather that is as storied as it is beautiful. The formula was lost. Despite the tannery’s best attempts they have not been able to reproduce it. https://www.ashlandleather.com/ https://www.horween.com/ https://linktr.ee/fullgrainpodcast Watch it on YouTube https://youtu.be/OM7_YR03sCo Get a wall…
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In this episode, Savannah asks Julie why many gender diverse individuals may feel their wardrobe and style has toned down since they first started their journey. From gaining a measure of growing maturity that comes from a truncated second feminine puberty, to normalizing what was once a bedroom fetish to finding outfits more appropriate for a trip…
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In this episode, Savannah ad Julie read listener responses to a Julie social media post asking about their most memorable euphoric feminine moments. Plenty of ladies replied! Thanks! From that first spinning reveal in a makeup artist's chair to the donning of the wig to complete a feminine persona, to catching the attention of an admirer that might…
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In this episode, Savannah sneaks to the mic to read the first chapter of her new book, 'Gender 101: An A-Z Handbook and Exploration'. Many have asked Savannah about Audible versions of her 'Living with Crossdressing' book series. Now, you can hear the authoress herself read her own words. If you like what you hear, please help support the community…
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Starting with the cowboy origins of Latigo leathers, Nick delves into the details of Cypress, one of Horween’s latest leather offerings. We explore the complexities involved in achieving specific colors like grey and white. Finally, we engage in a conversation about the unique competitive edges that both small and large brands possess. 0:00 Topics …
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss a topic that fascinated Savannah from Keystone. Namely, the fact that a young person with trans experience attended Savannah's workshop with the express notion of learning more about what 'crossdressing' means. With Savannah's mind blown, she sits down with Julie to better understand the place of 'crossdr…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss the stark differences and similarities between men presenting as women and the cis-women they are trying to emulate. For years, each gender diverse MTF person has cultivated what they consider to be their own version of the feminine experience, yet may never truly understand what women have gone through i…
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Ben Robinson from Stitchdown joins Nick Horween and Phil Kalas to chat Thunderdome, Boot Camp, and Leather. Congratulations to all of the winners of the Stitchdown Patina Thunderdome. Boot Camp is October 12-13 in NYC. 0:00 What’s a podcast? 0:49 Stitchdown Patina Thunderdome 45:25 Boot Camp 57:35 Leather Perspective https://www.stitchdownbootcamp.…
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In this episode, Savannah records from a secret conference center location at the Harrisburg Hilton during the 2024 Keystone Conference, bringing with her a name from the 2023 conference... Panda! Violet, aka "Panda" is the Significant One of her lovely gender diverse partner Catrina. Both of them sit down and tell the story of their journey of ove…
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Asking the hard questions up top: Is Horween Chromexcel (CXL) leather overrated? Is Alden overpriced? Dale from Dale’s Leatherworks shares his opinions with Nick Horween and Phil Kalas. 0:00 American Original 1:08 Is CXL Overrated? 19:12 Is Alden Overpriced? 30:03 WWII Boots 38:47 Stuck in a boot world from 10+ years ago 52:38 Nick Q&A Lightning Ro…
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In this episode, Judy and Savannah discuss the timeless question, "When is it going to stop being about you?!" For every significant one who discovers or is revealed to that their male's propensity to dress enfemme, there is a high percentage of couples who endure the male partner's 'Pink Cloud' and their sudden obsession with all things feminine. …
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Sam Parker is the co-founder of Context Clothing. He is one of the individuals behind the creation of the famous Roy Boot by Alden x Context. Context had a 15 year run and closed its doors in 2020. Sam now runs restaurants and bars in Madison Wisconsin: Turn Key Supper Club, Settle Down Tavern, and Ounce By Ounce. https://www.turnkeymadison.com/ ht…
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In this episode, Savannah returns from the 2024 Keystone Conference in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to regale Julie with all the wonderful people Savannah met and all the amazing events she participated in. From the decompression of coming down after several days enfemme with other gorgeous women, to connecting with inclusive and accepting fellow conf…
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Nick and Phil take on your hardest hitting leather questions including leather terms, brain tanning, leather delays, Horween’s Predator leather, horsebutt, sneakers and more. Need a wallet that is made for patina and is guaranteed for life? Ashland Leather has you covered. https://ashlandleather.com/ Want the world's finest leather? Check our Horwe…
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In this episode, Savannah reads a letter to Julie from Melanie, a CD site administrator, who felt the podding duo missed an important opportunity about a serious matter when discussing Fred 'Bubba' Copeland in episode 162 (Top Secret Dox). Keeping one's feminine identity private--and taking thoughtful and vigilant protective measures--should always…
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Nick English is the owner of www.stridewise.com, a blog and YouTube channel focusing on boots and casual durable stuff. A wide range of leather and boot topics are covered including who makes the best shell cordovan, Horween Chromexcel leather, current trends, European style, loafers, veg tanning vs. chrome tanning, and many more. 0:00 Best Shell C…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss all the ways that embracing one's feminine side can reverse the aging process. From the practical and physical aspects of looking younger to the psychological side of being more in touch with the feminine spirit and all the vigor it can bestow, to regressing to a younger age in order to make up precious f…
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Are you considering aniline leather? Or perhaps a completely painted leather? Join Nick and Phil as they delve into various leather finishes, highlighting aniline leather. Leather can range from unfinished to fully finished, each with its own set of advantages and disadvantages. 0:00 What is Aniline Leather 8:29 Aniline etymology and marketing 14:0…
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In this episode, Judy and Savannah discuss the following question... "Why does Savannah need to wear heels all the time?". From the want to feel more feminine, distract from large feet, make that booty pop and the tits jut out, to the aura of the overly feminine spirit, Savannah and Judy weigh the pros and cons of wearing only heels. ----- SAVANNAH…
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Nick and Phil discuss the differences and similarities in “genuine leathers” including suede, split suede, nubuck, rough out, and waxed flesh. How should you care for your suede? Is nubuck more durable than suede? Is a split suede of poor quality? All of the answers are here. 0:00 Genuine Leathers 0:21 What is suede? 9:10 What is rough out and waxe…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie do a bit of checking in about books and movies before discussing what it would be like if the crossdressing man's female partner wanted to experience what it would feel like to add a "package bulge" in their boxer briefs. What happens when the heel is on the other foot? Sure, we want to be feminine with our breas…
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In this episode, Savannah brings up to Julie a specific Montana Legislature Senate Bill 458 that aimed to add more concise gender binary language into other existing state laws. As a result, the Two Spirit Society fought back as they felt the bill introduced and passed in October 2023 infringes on their inalienable rights to recognize two-spirit as…
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In this episode, Julie reads Savannah a letter from a former contact to the FoxandHanger.com business. But this letter is not filled with butterflies and rainbows, oh no. Instead, this letter includes a reference to fun crossdressing in times past, a statement that they had abandoned that practice long ago, and the declaration that they were no lon…
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In this episode, Julie and Judy give Savannah the high heel and kick her to the curb in favor of some girl talk between just them cis-girls. They chat about the starts of their own relationship, the altered dynamic of Savannah and Judy when it came Savannah suddenly working with Julie on such a grander scale for the podcast, and so much more! Julie…
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In this episode, Savannah and Julie pull a story direct from social media, where a close friend of the podcast regaled her FaceBook wall with a post about her revealing her feminine side to a more conservative neighbor during a holiday party. What started earlier in the evening as "we should go take in a music event" before the reveal became "Don't…
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In this episode, Julie asks Savannah why men love wearing women's clothes. What is it specifically about the soft and satiny feel of material, the way the clothing compresses and fits on the body, and the styles and colors and varieties that men with feminine spirits re drawn to? Men's clothes are basically simple, boring, and uninspired, while wom…
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In this episode, Savannah brings on a special guest tp chat with Julie... none other than Crystal, the transwoman formally known as 'Jellyfish'. After a Saturday evening out with the girls (including Leigh Anne), Crystal comes on the show with her origin story, her current journey into transition, her efforts to create safe spaces and supportive co…
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Nick and Phil answer your most pressing leather questions. 0:00 Favorite Episodes 4:03 Arabica Lux Leather 6:00 Saphir Mirror Gloss 9:11 Tanner’s Blend on Shell Cordovan 10:27 Favorite and Least Favorite Leathers 14:28 Horween’s Crunch Leather 16:33 VIberg Double Butt Shell Cordovan Boot 22:47 Does Horween Tan Calf? 27:11 What Scent Does the Tanner…
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