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#108 Winter Tech Forum and Current Projects
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43:58Join us at the 2025 Winter Tech Forum! www.wintertechforum.com Projects Mentioned: uv for Python TypeScript Effect Pkl CloudFormation Extras Pkl GitHub Actions Other Episodes Mentioned: #81 TypeScript & Effects with Michael Arnaldi #97 The Pkl Configuration Language with Philip Hölzenspies
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#107 The Joy of Programming with Dave Thomas
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1:09:49We chat with Dave Thomas, co-author of The Pragmatic Programmer, about the joy of programming and the tensions between our and others needs. Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD2uPKyF
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#106 Agile Organizations with Jutta Eckstein
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1:04:04Jutta Eckstein is expanding the concepts of Agile to be a company-wide model, instead of a niche process for software developers. We chat with her about the book "Company-wide Agility with Beyond Budgeting, Open Space & Sociocracy" which she co-authored on this subject. For more details on the book and many free resources, see: www.agilebossanova.c…
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#105 Nathan Sobo's Pursuit of the Ultimate Code Editor
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1:23:16Nathan Sobo is co-founder of Zed, a super-fast, collaborative, AI-powered, code editor. We chat about his journey to build the ultimate code editor: lessons learned from building Atom, Electron and its challenges, CRDTs, Rust native GPU GUIs, AI Code Assistants, and more CRDTs. See also: Nathan on the Software Unscripted podcast Discuss this epis…
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#104 Effect Oriented Programming: The Book
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58:21After 4 years in development, our book is out! Along with our friend and lead-author, Bill Frasure, we we discuss the book, its motivation and the process we used to create it. Now available in digital and print forms at: effectorientedprogramming.com At the end of the episode we step into the "twilight zone" with a 7 minute NotebookLM AI-generated…
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#103 AI Augmented Programming with Stephan Janssen
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1:07:54Stephan Janssen is always on the bleeding edge of both helping developers grow and with how he uses technology to accomplish amazing things. He led the creation of Devoxx but is a coder at heart. Stephan shares his journey with AI, both as a "library" in his applications and also as an "assistant" that helps him iterate and program more quickly. …
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#102 Gathering Nerds and Java Gatherers with Venkat Subramaniam
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52:33We chat with Venkat about his upcoming dev2next conference and the new Stream Gatherers API (preview in JDK 22). Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD2uPKyF
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#101 Effects and Local-First with Johannes Schickling
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1:13:10Johannes Schickling (@schickling | schickling.dev) gets us up-to-speed on Effect, the ZIO-inspired Effect System for TypeScript, and the Local-First movement. Resources: Local-First Podcast: www.localfirst.fm Ink & Switch's Local-First Essay: www.inkandswitch.com/local-first Effect (TypeScript Library): effect.website Riffle research project: riff…
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#100 Thinking about Thinking with Diana Montalion
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1:31:57Diana Montalion teaches us about Systems Thinking and why it matters for those of us building software. Diana is founder of Mentrix, which teaches "systems architecture skills for an increasingly complex world." Pre-Order Diana's book: Learning Systems Thinking: Essential Nonlinear Skills and Practices for Software Professionals Discuss this epis…
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#99 The Agile Illusion with Trond Hjorteland
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55:54We chat with Trond Hjorteland about Agile and why it hasn't led to successful outcomes in many traditional organizations. Mentioned and related resources: Trond & João Rosa's training on Agile + DP2 Open Systems Theory LinkedIn Group for Open Systems Theory More material on Open Systems Theory Resource List from Trond Some of Trond's recorded talks…
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#98 Continuous Deployment with Valentina Servile
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1:06:04We chat with Valentina Servile about her upcoming book on Continuous Deployment and reducing the risks to keeping HEAD not just always deployable, but automatically deployed to production. Book for preorder on Amazon: Continuous Deployment: Enable Faster Feedback, Safer Releases, and More Reliable Software Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD…
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#97 The Pkl Configuration Language with Philip Hölzenspies
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1:14:36We chat with Philip Hölzenspies, one of the maintainers of the new Pkl configuration language (pkl-lang.org). Resources: James' Pkl for GitHub Actions: github.com/jamesward/pklgha Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD2uPKyF
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#96 Compassionate Coding with April Wensel
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59:13We chat with April Wensel, founder of Compassionate Coding, about helping programmers bring more compassion to themselves and others. Resources: Confessions of a Recovering Jerk Programmer Marshall Rosenberg - Nonviolent Communication Kristin Neff - Self-Compassion Karen Armstrong - Twelve Steps to a Compassionate Life UC Berkeley Greater Good Scie…
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#95 21st Century Databases with Gwen Shapira
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1:00:15We chat with Gwen Shapira, co-founder of Nile, about her journey to creating a virtualized, serverless Postgres database service. We also dive into the challenges with traditional data architectures and approaches like ORMs. Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD2uPKyF
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#94 Build Ops & Developer Productivity With Trisha Gee
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1:07:31We chat with Trisha Gee about Test Driven Development (TDD), flaky tests, ops & observability for builds, and developer productivity. Mentioned TDD Article: The beautiful theory of TDD and the reality check of practice Discuss this episode: discord.gg/XVKD2uPKyF
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#93 Nerd Sniping via the 1B Row Challenge with Gunnar Morling
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59:06When Gunnar Morling announced the 1 Billion Row Challenge a few weeks ago, he had no idea it'd go crazy viral. Resources: Challenge details: www.morling.dev/blog/one-billion-row-challenge Rust 1BRC Blog: aminediro.com/posts/billion_row/ Cliff Click's implementation walkthrough: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJNIbgV6j-Y James' very slow Scala ZIO implemen…
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#92 Virtual Threads Looming with Adam Warski
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1:07:37We chat with Adam Warski about Loom, Virtual Threads, and his Loom-based Scala library, Ox, for structured concurrency & Go-Like Channels. Referenced articles & code: Ox EasyRacer Client Go statement considered harmful Go-like selects using jox channels in Java Limits of Loom's performance Fast and Scalable Channels in Kotlin Coroutines Discuss thi…
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#91 'Tis The Season For Reducing Gradle Friction
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1:07:23Announcing Graboo, a collection of experiments to reduce friction with Gradle. Repo: https://github.com/jamesward/graboo Buy your Happy Path Programming Shirt: https://happy-path.printify.me/products Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#90 The Best Manager with Sushila Sahay
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44:42Most of us have managers but they aren't always great. We chat with James' best manager, Sushila Sahay, about what makes her such a great manager. We also dive a bit into open source business models since Sushila has deep experience in that realm. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#89 Algebraic Effects with Kyo (Flavio Brasil)
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1:07:45We learn about Algebraic Effects with the Scala library Kyo ( getkyo.io) from the creator, Flavio Brasil. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#88 Developers Thriving In the Flow with Arty Starr
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1:15:08Arty Starr is a PhD student and entrepreneur focused on helping developers thrive. We chat about her research on developer momentum and ways that developers can find joy through more time in the flow state. Referenced resources: SpringOne Talk Arty's Idea Flow Book FlowInsight Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#87 Diving Deeper into Wasm with Zalim Bashorov
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1:07:11Zalim Bashorov (@bashorov) works on Kotlin/Wasm at JetBrains and answers our many questions about Wasm, GC, the Component Model, and other future proposals. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#86 The Journey to OCaml with Sabine
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1:10:34Sabine went from acedemia and a PhD in formal methods, to Python, Elm, Haskell, and now OCaml. We chat about this journey and some of the reasons why OCaml is an awesome modern language. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#85 Scala, Rust, and Durable Computing with John De Goes
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1:19:34Our chat with John De Goes starts with his Scala & Rust journeys, then goes into Golem Cloud, a serverless durable computing platform underpinned by Wasm, and ends with a discussion about whether business applications really need parallelism. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#84 Inevitable Failure with Dormain Drewitz
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1:09:11We chat with Dormain Drewitz about failure and reliability. Ironically our recording software crashed near the end of the episode but we recovered and wrapped things up. Referenced Article: 10 Years of Failure Friday at PagerDuty: Fostering Resilience, Learning and Reliability Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#83 Rust Developer Retreat & Structured Concurrency
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58:12At the Rust Developer Retreat we explored Structured Concurrency with Tokio. With the attendees we chat about our projects and things learned, liked, and disliked about Rust. Then dive into Structured Concurrency generally and specific implementations. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#82 The Future of Programming
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1:12:16Bruce and James chat about the future of programming. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#81 TypeScript & Effects with Michael Arnaldi
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1:06:20Michael created Effect, a functional effect system inspired by Scala ZIO, for TypeScript. We chat about Functional Programming, the TypeScript language, and Effects. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#80 Investing in Developer Tools with Renee Shah
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45:37Renee Shah is a partner at Amplify Partners, an early stage venture capital firm. We discuss some broad industry trends: Edge, Wasm, Distributed Systems, Functional Programming, and much more! Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#79 Domain-Driven Design and Moduliths with Oliver Drotbohm
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1:02:13We chat with Oliver Drotbohm about what Domain-Driven Design is and how it might intersect with Microservices, Monoliths, or Moduliths. Mentioned resources: Parnas on modularity Chris Richardson – Introducing Assemblage - a microservice architecture definition process Spring Modulith Project Introducing Spring Modulith Discuss this episode: https:/…
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#78 Immutability & IDLs for Declarative Services with Jakub Kozłowski
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1:16:15First a short rant about mutability followed by learning about Smithy, an Interface Description Language (IDL), with Jakub Kozłowski. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#77 Quarkus and Microservices with Holly Cummins
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1:00:58Holly Cummins, a Senior Principal Software Engineer on Quarkus at Redhat, joins us to chat about Microservices and Quarkus. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#76 WebAssembly (Wasm) "The Web Finds a Way" with Vivek Sekhar
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1:01:00WebAssembly (Wasm) finds a way for the web to move forward to near-native performance while avoiding the limitations of JavaScript. In this episode we chat with Vivek Sekhar, a product manager on the Chrome team, about all the Wasm things and how they relate to a better foundation for cross-platform, high performance apps, in the browser, on the cl…
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#75 Haskell "Not as Scary as You Think" with Kris Jenkins
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1:07:19We learn the motivations behind Haskell and why it is the pinnacle of Functional Programming from Kris Jenkins, a Developer Advocate at Confluent. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#74 Developer Joy = Developer Productivity with Justin Reock
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1:07:59Developer Productivity Engineering (DPE) is a set of tools & practices that help engineers be more productive. We chat with Justin Reock, field CTO at Gradle, about why more organizations need DPE and what that really means. Learn more at: https://gradle.com/developer-productivity-engineering/ Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#73 Nix - Functional Programming for Software Packaging with Domen Kožar
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1:02:13After being told many times that Nix is all we dream for when it comes to software packaging, we finally chat with Domen Kožar and learn all about Nix. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#72 Pants Makes Developers Happier & More Productive with Benjy Weinberger
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1:08:03The Pants build tool is polyglot (Python, Java, Kotlin, Scala, Go, etc) and focused on helping developers be more productive and happier. We chat with a co-creator of Pants, Benjy Weinberger, about the history, motivations, and future of the build tool. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#71 Functional Programming in Kotlin with Simon Vergauwen (Sorry about the terrible audio)
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1:03:16Simon Vergauwen shares about Arrow, a collection of Functional Programming libraries for Kotlin. Sincere apologies for Bruce & James' bad audio. We forgot to change our input device but figured we'd still publish this as it is tolerable and Simon has so much good stuff to say. (His audio is great) Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#70 Understanding Software Through Bees & Biology With Grace Jansen
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1:03:47Grace Jansen joins us to chat about how bees and biology can help us better understand software development tools & paradigms like Reactive, Kubernetes, and maybe parts of the 15 Factor App methodology (a modernized version of the Twelve-Factor App methodology). Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#69 Polymorphism Unbound
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1:07:01Bruce continues his archaeological dig into the foundations of mainstream programming. Referenced blog: Why Are There Functions? Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#68 The End of Ivory Tower Architecture with Andrew Harmel-Law
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1:08:48Andrew Harmel-Law shares a better way to make decisions in software teams using the "Advice Process" which he has used in a number of teams resulting in happier, more productive programmers. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#67 Swallowed by a Python with Luciano Ramalho
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1:23:29Finally Bruce gets a whole episode about Python with our friend Luciano Ramalho, author of Fluent Python. In the words of Luciano: "Thanks James and Bruce for the most enjoyable podcast panel I ever had!" Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#66 The Journey to Rust with Christopher Hunt
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1:20:05No doubt that Rust is hot right now. We chat with Christopher Hunt about his journey through Java, Scala, and many other languages and learn why he is now using Rust. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#65 Rod's Gambit - Spring, Scala, TypeScript, and Chess with Rod Johnson
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1:04:33Rod Johnson (creator of Spring Framework) reflects on his programming and chess journeys. References: ScalaDays 2013 Talk Stockfish Chess Engine Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#64 Building Build Tools is Hard with Josh Suereth
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1:03:58Bruce and James often rant about build tools but it turns out they are hard to get right. We dive into the reasons with Josh Suereth who maintained sbt (a Scala build tool) for a number of years. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#63 ZIO 2 dot Ohhhhh! with Bill Frasure
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1:26:17Our co-author on Effect Oriented Programming, Bill Frasure, joins us to chat about his programming journey and his involvement in last week's ZIO 2.0 release. Book repo: https://github.com/EffectOrientedProgramming/book Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#62 Musing About Local-First Sync & CRDTs with Mark McGranaghan
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1:06:05Mark McGranaghan joins us to talk about how the Muse app uses Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs) for local-first data synchronization. More details on Local-first: https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first/ Referenced article about hybrid logical clocks: https://archive.jlongster.com/using-crdts-in-the-wild Discuss this episode: https://dis…
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#61 Compassionate Communities with Tonya Moore
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1:04:52Tonya Moore has been helping build developer communities for years. We discuss how to deal with jerks and the importance of building on a foundation of compassion. Referenced blog from Bill Venners: https://www.artima.com/articles/compassion-in-our-community Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF…
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#60 Kotlin Language Design with Roman Elizarov
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1:02:59Kotlin Language designer Roman Elizarov, joins us to talk about finding the right balances when designing Kotlin. Discuss this episode: https://discord.gg/nPa76qF
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#59 Goetz's Law, Dhall, and Nix (With Gabriella Gonzalez)
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59:49Gabriella Gonzalez joins to teach us about the Dhall configuration language they created and Nix. References: The Dhall configuration language Henk: a typed intermediate language Pants Build Tool The Purely Functional Software Deployment Model Haskell for all: How to use NixOS for lightweight integration tests How to market Haskell to a mainstream …
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