For lawyers at any sized firms: learn the strategies, tactics, tips & tricks that you need to build an rock solid book of business--authentically and stress free--without eating up all your time!
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We love law, but we don't always want to talk about it. Who are we outside the boardroom and courtroom? In this show, we explore how our multiple purposes collide and ask the question: where does our motivation to work come from? Community and business leaders join us to share personal stories about their passions, how they stay driven, and what makes them tick.
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Aaron Baer: From Law Firm to Legal Tech Innovation at 4L Academy
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Ever wonder if there’s a better way to learn and practice law? In this episode, Mark chats with Aaron Baer, a trailblazer in the legal tech world, who took his early frustrations as a young lawyer and turned them into a fresh approach to legal education and practice. Aaron shares how he identified major gaps in traditional law training and his jour…
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Miranda Ayim: From Olympic Glory to Mental Wellness & Leadership
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In this episode of Anything But Law, we explore the extraordinary journey of Miranda Ayim, a three-time Olympian who has transitioned from a world-class basketball player to a leading advocate for mental wellness and empowerment. Miranda opens up about her experiences as the captain of the Canadian national team, her challenges with injuries, and h…
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Olympic Gold Medalist Damian Warner on Success, Adversity, and Resilience
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What does it take to achieve Olympic gold and inspire the next generation? Join us in the Season 3 premiere of Anything But Law as we uncover the story of Damian Warner, the celebrated decathlete from London, Ontario. From childhood games to Olympic glory, Damian shares his journey, the impact of educators, and the pivotal moments that shaped his p…
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We started season 2 of Anything But Law talking to Erin Durant about her burnout, and subsequent career rebirth in law. Since then, we have spoken to a number of guests about their fascinating ventures outside of law. In our final episode of season 2 we come full circle and speak to Joe Groia about how he planned and created a refuge for himself fr…
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The Advocate at Town Hall
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This week on Anything But Law, Dom talks to Doug Judson about his role as Town Councillor in Fort Frances, Ontario. Tune in to hear Doug describe how his interest in politics came to be, where politics have gone in recent years, and what's next for him. Most importantly, you'll hear how it all ties together with his career in law. Presented by: Ler…
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In this week's episode of Anything But Law, Dom chats with lawyer and hobby farm developer Miles Backhouse. Miles joins Dom to talk about how the hobby farm came to be, how he has adjusted to life in the countryside, and how the hobby farm has provided balance between his personal and professional lives. Presented by: Lerners LLPHosted by: Dom Magi…
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Tall Ships and 18 Wheelers: The Unusual Path to Law
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This week, we veer slightly off path from our season's theme of lawyers with interesting side hustles. Join Dom as he chats with former Lerners associate Chris Shorey about his less-than-traditional path to becoming a lawyer, from working on tall ships to driving coast to coast in 18-wheelers. Presented by: Lerners LLPHosted by: Dom MagisanoExecuti…
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The Legal Grind: Balancing Court and Coffee
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You may remember Emily from our first season, when she joined Mark to talk about the importance of emotional intelligence and taking care of your mental health. This season, she returns to talk with Dom about the passion that has allowed her to find purpose as a litigator. A fellow partner at Lerners, Emily has enjoyed working as a barista in her d…
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Unleashing the Beat: A Lawyer's Journey from the Courtroom to the DJ Booth
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This week on Anything But Law, Dom talks to fellow lawyer Varoujan Arman about his passion for music and DJing, how he's able to balance a career in law and music, and where the two passions intersect. Presented by: Lerners LLPHosted by: Dom MagisanoExecutive Production: Natalee DavisProject Management: Dylan WillemsAudio Engineering: Chandra Buluc…
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From Burnout to Balance: Part 2
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In part two of Dom's interview with Erin Durant, they chat about the passion that keeps her going outside of work: softball. A sport she's played for the better part of her life, Erin has taken on many roles, from player, to coach, to administrator, and leader. In this conversation, you'll hear how it allows her to find balance in her busy life. Pr…
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From Burnout to Balance: Part 1
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In the first episode of season two, host Dom Magisano sits down with lawyer, author, and softball player, Erin Durant. Recorded as a two-part episode, part one covers Erin’s book, “It Burned me all Down”, which describes her experience of a devastating burnout while working as a partner. Listen as they talk about Erin’s struggles that led to her bu…
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Welcome to Season 2 of Anything But Law! This time, we have a new host, new guests, and a new spin. We'll be taking you on an audio journey exploring the lives of other lawyers, learning about their side hustles and passion projects that help bring them joy. Presented by: Lerners LLPHosted by: Domenico MagisanoExecutive Production: Natalee DavisPro…
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The Anatomy of a People Person
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This week, Mark talks to chief people officer at Right to Play, Nikki Da Silva. Join them as they chat about her passion for people and culture, the importance of getting to know one another, and the impact it has on fostering team mentality. They also talk about "Right to Play" and the role of passion in driving business forward. Presented by: Ler…
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Building a Business the Right Way
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Mark chats with business executive, people leader, and Senior VP of Financial services at IG Wealth Management, Marissa Teeter. Listen as they talk about the importance of developing and teaching financial literacy, giving back through charity work, and her passion for community. Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Productio…
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Why You Need Emotional Intelligence
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On this episode of Anything But Law, Mark sits down with fellow Lerners Lawyer, Emily Fan. A Partner at the firm and passionate defence class actions and commercial litigator, Emily describes her path to a career in law, and the importance of developing emotional intelligence while taking care of your mental health. They also talk about mentors who…
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The Ever-Evolving Definition of Success
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On this episode of Anything but Law, Mark McAuley sits down with mentor, entrepreneur, and philanthropist Michael Hyatt. Listen as they chat about Michael’s role as an investor, what he does and doesn’t look for in great companies, and how to know when you got it right. They also discuss the post-covid era of work culture, and how his definition of…
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This week on Anything But Law, Mark McAuley sits down with Goodmans LLP associate Randy McAuley, and VP of Atlantic Global Risk, David St. Bernard. Listen as they talk about childhood memories, getting to where they are now, and the importance of having good role models. Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natale…
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Effective Communication is Contextual
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In our third episode of Anything But Law, Mark chats with Juno Award-winning, Grammy-nominated musical engineer and producer, Dan Brrodbeck. Listen as they talk about Dan's career in the music industry, the art of conveying knowledge, and how effective communication is contextual. Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Producti…
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Challenges for People of Colour in the Cannabis Industry
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In our second episode of Anything But Law, Mark McAuley talks to Michael and Ashley Athill, the brother-sister duo behind HRVSTR Cannabis. Tune in to hear how they set the course as Canada's first Black-owned Licensed Producer (LP), and listen to them describe some of the challenges they've faced along the way. Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: …
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How Storytelling Can Become More Authentic
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In our first episode, Host Mark McAuley sits down with Theatre Producer and Co-Founder of M/Y Storycreative, Michael Rubinoff! Tune in to listen to Michael's journey as a producer, and how he strives to make the art of storytelling more authentic. Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Manageme…
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Welcome to Anything But Law! In this trailer, you'll get an idea of what you can expect from the show. Enjoy! Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), J…
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Getting Control & Clarity about Your Legal Career
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You want more control, more autonomy and a greater sense of feeling over your career. So far, the path to get there has been hazy at best. People become partners and still stumble their way around. Go to coffees and lunches, it sort of works sometimes, and so you hunker down and just do your work...until you feel the heat and decide to go to some c…
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Take The 12 in 12 Challenge in the New Year 🥳 (plus reflections on the past year)
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In 2022, get short, fun, and new actionable missions every month to grow your book of practice, presence, and brand. Starting at just $19/month. Are you ready to get off the roller coaster 🎢 and on to the rocket 🚀? Learn more at buildyourbook.org/12in12. Open to lawyers and other service professionals from everywhere in the world. ------ Dear liste…
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The Untapped Power of Behavioural Thinking with Roy Bendor Cohen
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Every other industry has been disrupted by this paradigm. It's time for forward looking lawyers and law firms to think boldly about the future. Roy Bendor Cohen shows us how. Roy exists to provide answers to business problems using data, behavioral science and human thought. He encapsulates this mode of thinking at his firm Q Behavioural Thinking o…
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Branding & Content on LinkedIn for Lawyers with Robyn Addis
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If you're looking to invest more time and effort on LinkedIn, and thinking about your content, you will want to catch this episode with Robyn Addis. Robyn is a digital transformation architect at LISI. That is to say, she helps lawyers tell stories, produce content on LinkedIn, and get their digital strategy right. In this practical episode on bran…
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Hustle & Grit with Eric Janssen
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Eric is a practitioner and also a professor of sales at the Ivey Business School at the University of Western Ontario. Each year he teaches hundreds of entrepreneurs, consultants, engineers, and new grads how to sell. Not long ago he was in the trenches (sometimes literally) closing deals with the best music festivals in the world, logging 100,000+…
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Radical Transparency & Creativity with Josh Calderon
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Josh Calderon is running his law practice differently. He confronts the myths of being a solo-practitioner. He shares his revenue numbers publicly on LinkedIn. He gives us a playbook on how to do business development effectively even when you don't have the family connections to open door for you. Josh represents a new era of lawyers who practice w…
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Samantha McKenna (#samsales) on LinkedIn Tips for Lawyers
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Sam is a LinkedIn influencer. She's one of the most sought after trainers & consultants in the world of sales and marketing. Sam started helping people with their sales challenges not too long ago and quickly built it into a leading organization. She's since then worked with lawyers at 95 of the AmLaw 100 firms. She's here on our show today to shar…
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Steven Werner - From JD to a Sales Career
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Steven Werner went to law school for his JD, but ended up with a sales career instead. Not for just legal tech companies, but directly for law firms and attorneys. He started helping attorneys book meetings with general counsels. Through his unique insights, sheer perseverance, and an ever expanding network, he soon started opening the doors for Am…
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Giles Thompson - Getting Agile as a Lawyer going into Tech
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This week, we're joined by Giles Thompson from across the pond in London, UK. He's a former city lawyer turned Head of Growth at Avvoka, where they're doing incredible things in the world of document automation. We get into his story of the things he had to learn, unlearn, and is in the process of learning. These ideas include: using agile methodol…
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The Skill of Content Marketing for Attorneys with Heidi Turner
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How do you write great blog posts, LinkedIn posts, and other content that connects with your audience? Heidi Turner tells us how! Heidi has been helping lawyers and attorneys create great content for almost 2 decades! She also teaches writing at Simon Fraser University, and has worked with firms small and big, to create compelling content strategie…
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Referrals, Marketing Funnels, and Sales for Attorneys with Agnes Lan
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The heart of sales is solving problems. Yet, attorneys hold themselves back because they often think it is about being pushy and manipulative. When it comes to asking for referrals and sales, there's a goldmine you might be missing on. In this conversation with Agnes Lan, we get into how marketing funnels and referrals can start bringing in clients…
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The Great Legal Reformation with Mitch Kowalski
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What's the future of how law will be practiced? How will it affect you? Are you missing the silent by tectonic change happening underneath your feet? How can you prepare yourself for this change? Mitch gives us an answer. He's the author of The Great Legal Reformation, host of the Legal Innovators Roundtable, General Counsel for Aoyuan Internationa…
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The Art of Standing Out as a Lawyer with Vivek Jayaram
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Are you afraid to stand out as a lawyer? Are you afraid to share your edges? Can you truly succeed in this business "being yourself"? Perhaps you've felt you have to push this part of your life down. Well, you don't. Vivek shows us how. Vivek started Jayaram Law at the height of the global recession in 2008/9. Over time, he's built it into the prem…
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Rainmaking for Attorneys with Liz Wendling
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Have you ever found yourself trying to upgrade your "sales" skills by learning how to close? Lawyers & attorneys routinely believe that is the magic skill they're missing to get better at getting clients to sign the dotted line. Well, it turns out that the paradigm is upside down! Opening is the new "closing". Liz Wendling tells us how. Liz combine…
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Be a Deal-Maker, Not a Deal-Breaker with Barry Wolfe
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Do you help your client gets deal done or do you break them up? Lawyers often become deal breakers, not deal makers. Why does this happen and what can you do about it? Barry Wolfe tells us that lawyers often miss the full picture of the deal. They overvalue what's in front of them, and become blind to everything else. To succeed in this profession …
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The Silent Biases Women Face in Law with Robin Arnold
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What biases exist for women in law today? How can they stand out? What is something that men need to understand about women in law? What about senior leadership? What's the balance look like for being authentic vs. putting on a facade and is that even the right gradient? In this episode, we speak with Robin Arnold. She's a partner at Blue Williams,…
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Maximizing Your Legal Career with Nick Arnold
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Nick Arnold has 15,000+ followers on LinkedIn. He's a partner at Blue Williams. He's a father of 6 kids. He's married to his high school sweetheart who's also a partner at the firm. He has an ever-growing book of business. How does Nick Arnold do it all? In this episode of the podcast, we're getting into a great discussion with Nick Arnold about wh…
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How to be authentic while being deliberate (mini-episode)
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You have great ideas to grow your practice, but it just doesn't feel authentic enough. Has that ever happened to you? You want to be authentic, but you also feel this pull to use systems, plans, templates and everything else that feels "fake". You end up subtly sabotaging your own efforts. What do you do? How do you deal with the dichotomy of being…
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Escaping the Time Trap for the Busy Professional
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Your time is short and you've got more to do than ever before. You know business development is important, but you just can't make yourself do it given all the fires you're fighting. Time is the cause of stress, anxiety, distraction fueled addictions, and sleepless nights. Right now, time is how you get compensated. It's all about the input. This w…
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Surprising Lessons from Coaching
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Why do your business development initiatives fail? Why do you feel burned out from these efforts? Why is branding a lot like starting a workout plan? What's the common link between a day at the spa and selling? These are some of the questions we examine on this episode. We go over the key lessons we have learned from a year of coaching lawyers and …
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Laura Frederick's Commitment to Generosity
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Laura Frederick left her job as in-house counsel at Tesla right before the pandemic to start her own firm in her 50s. As a single mom of 4 kids, she had to make this whole thing work. In this episode of the Build Your Book podcast, we learn about the lessons she learned along the way to not only survive, but thrive in this new paradigm. Along the w…
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Take Charge with Norman Bacal
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Norman Bacal is a legend in Canadian law. Norm built & led one of Canada’s most prestigious law firms. He was also one of the most successful film finance lawyers in the country. He sat on the board of directors of a Hollywood studio and represented companies like Warner Bros, MGM, Sony, and Lionsgate. Then, the firm collapsed and he re-invented hi…
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From Wrestler to Legal Sales Pro with Nick Cegelski
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Nick Cegelski gets what it takes to sell. Sales is not a dirty word to him. The heart of sales is a conversation, it is about questions. In this episode, we break down the entire client sales meeting where you as a lawyer have to sit down and convince the client to retain you. But as you'll soon discover, there is no convincing required if you run …
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The Entrepreneurial Lawyer with Sukhi Hansra
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He's a food entrepreneur, a tech consultant, a lawyer, and just someone who thinks differently. Sukhi is an entrepreneur first who decided to choose himself and skip the line that other lawyers force themselves into. The fact is, anyone can learn to be an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs are not born, they're made. And despite what you might think, ther…
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Erin Durant - The Future is Small
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What makes someone go from an equity partner at a large law firm to striking out on their own in a small practice? In this incredible talk, we learn from the candid Erin Durant about her adventure into building something herself. She talks about how going out on your own is less scary than people think. She gets into all the ways she prepared herse…
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Angela Han on How to Navigate Through Personal Blind Spots
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A teacher who becomes a lawyer. This is the story of Angela Han, an immigrant to the US who goes from feeling unwanted & unworthy to becoming someone who loves her work as a lawyer, a health coach, a life coach, and a mom. This is a deeply personal episode as Angela talks about her immigration story to the US, her turbulent start in the legal profe…
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Pivoting Your Legal Career, The Value of Little Experiments, and Recreating Your Work
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People can spend their entire lives doing work they hate in this profession. Why? The fear of a drop in income. The fear of starting from scratch. But it doesn't have to be that way. It is simple to manage around these fears. It is easier than ever to build a foundation right where you are, run small experiments, and pivot when the time is right. I…
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Choosing Yourself in the Legal Profession
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Traditional law firms want you to stay in your lane, do your work, bill hours, and go home. This is no longer the right recipe for success, fulfillment and happiness. It is also the riskiest thing you can do for your career. In this episode, we discuss the many different ways you must choose yourself. Whether you're a solo practitioner or a partner…
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Givers & Takers, Abundance vs. Scarcity
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Who comes out on top? The "sharks" or the takers, or the givers? Can saying "no" be a sign of abundance? Can saying "yes" be coming from a place of scarcity? The legal profession is mired in a scarcity mindset. Beliefs like there aren't enough clients, enough work, enough dollars keeps people constantly in stress, buttoned up and away from feeling …
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