Next Step Leadership is a podcast dedicated to helping you make your next step your best step. Your next step could very well determine the trajectory or direction of your life. Where we step, how we step, and when we step are all vital considerations for your next step. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds combine decades of experience in ministry, higher education, writing, music, leading organizations, and developing teams to inspire you to aspire in life one step at a time. We desire to assi ...
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Interview with Michelle Anthony, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 34
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Dr. Michelle Anthony, the Executive Pastor of Families at New Life Church and Dean of Familymin Academy, is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Michelle is an author, speaker, mentor, and humble leader who is making a positive difference in today’s society. Familymin Academy is a community of people who are passionate about ministry to the d…
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Interview with Lee Mason, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 33
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Pastor Lee Mason. In 2007, Lee and his wife Lisa began Classic City Church, a non-denominational church serving the city of Athens, GA. Lee talks about his book, Ten Historical Facts About Jesus: What Historians Are Certain of Concerni…
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Interview with Lee Mason, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 32
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Through the history of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy and Chris have enjoyed their conversations with a variety of guests. This week’s episode is another exciting chat. Pastor Lee Mason, Senior Pastor of Classic City Church in Athens, GA, tells his story of what brought him to his beliefs and his ministry. The narrative reminds audiences the v…
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Chris Maxwell "Things We've Handed Down" NEW BOOK Interview! - Season 4, Episode 31
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Chris Maxwell’s 12th book comes out October 1st. Each of the twelve chapters in the book, “Things We’ve Handed Down: Twelve Letters I Leave for You,” is written as a letter to a reader. The chapter titles are all book titles from books which have impacted Chris’ life. He hopes to hand down to the next generation key life principles that he learned …
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Interview with Bert Synan, Part 2 - Season 4, Episodes 30
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This episode of Next Step Leadership is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert’s honesty is so fitting for the overall message of this podcast’s theme. Our next steps won’t always be the best steps unless we know what our Creator is calling us to do and the true reason we are to do that. How has Bert developed rel…
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Interview with Bert Synan, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 29
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Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope to provide you a variety of voices and perspectives on the Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, they are honored to let you listen to their conversation with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert has many stories to tell—stories each leader can learn from. His early years of growing up in church, experiencing Jesus…
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Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 28
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In their second Next Step Leadership conversation with Greg Hearn, Chris and Tracy appreciate his desire to make a positive difference in today’s difficult culture. Greg’s talents in finances, organization, and leadership have served in ministry areas too often forgotten. As president of Emmanuel University, Greg believes in the institution’s true …
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Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 27
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Greg Hearn now serves as President at Emmanuel University. Like many of today’s leaders and their present positions, Greg did not expect to be in this role. But God places His servants where they need to be. Tracy and Chris enjoyed hearing Greg’s story about life, family, growing up as a minister’s kid, education, and where God has now assigned him…
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Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 26
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Landon Rowell. Landon’s story fits many young leaders. Called to ministry in some way, but not totally sure of what that really means. Sensing a deep desire to make a difference in God’s kingdom, Landon took the right classes and began working in new a…
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Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 25
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Landon Rowell wasn’t on the original schedule to be interviewed by Chris and Tracy. Landon was serving and helping. He was setting everything up for the podcast. What Landon didn’t know was that his story needed to be heard. So instead of just letting him stay “behind the scenes,” Chris and Tracy wanted his story heard. They believe the younger gen…
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Interview with Charles Powell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 24
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Charles Powell. It’s a deep story about life—about a life of wounds and braces and pain. Today’s leaders can only lead correctly when first applying the importance of self-care and deep healing. Dangerous Skills: A Memoir of the Me You Never Knew is the new bo…
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Interview with Charles Powell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 23
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Charles Powell of LifeSprings and Jagged Rock Media is today’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds have known Charles many years and wanted their podcast’s audience to hear his story. Through his work in security, rescuing people from human trafficking, studio production, and writing, Charles helps leaders become better …
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Next Step, Best Steps - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds-Season 4, Episode 22
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Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds usually have guests on their weekly podcast Next Step Leadership. Some weeks, like this one, the conversation includes only Chris and Tracy. These two men have known each other for almost two decades. They’ve worked together, served together, and led together. They continue hoping to learn together. Listen as they o…
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Interview with Chris Green, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 21
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Dr. Chris Green continues as this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. He again invites listeners to come to the table. Merging the past of Christ’s life and death, and the future life with Christ, he brings the table to our present stories. Through his writing and teaching and arts, Dr. Green provides new thoughts to his tradition. Let his story …
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Interview with Chris Green, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 20
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Author, clergy, and scholar Chris Green is this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. Through Dr. Green’s years of ministry in the church, academic, and literature sides of our world, he has learned many lessons of leadership. He thinks deeply and connects with many populations. In this first episode with Tracy and Chris, Dr. Green tells his story …
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Friendships in Leadership - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds - Season 4, Episode 19
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Chris and Tracy usually interview guests. Through their episodes, they have enjoyed conversations with a variety of pastors, authors, leaders, professors, and friends. The importance of that last role—friends—is the emphasis Tracy and Chris bring to their audience in this podcast. They have known each other for almost two decades. They have worked …
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Interview with John R. Miles, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 18
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their chat with John R. Miles. Author of the book and host of the podcast, Passion Struck, John knows much about when life faces change. He knows about uncertainty and redirection. He also knows about dreaming big and enduring hopes. His podcast brings many s…
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Interview with John R. Miles, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 17
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Chris and Tracy continue enjoying helpful conversations with their guests in Next Step Leadership. Each podcast brings new thoughts and ideas. In this episode, they talk with John R. Miles. John tells his story—an interesting and diverse career from serving in the military, national security, management consultant, leading cyber security practice, …
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Interview with Dr. Jen Bennett, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 16
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In their second conversation with author and professor Dr. Jen Bennet, Tracy and Chris believe all listeners will value greatly from her wisdom. Her years of serving in the academic world, her great advice on online ministry and marketing, her willingness to move geographically and accept change, and her battle with their house burning down are all…
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Interview with Dr. Jen Bennett, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 15
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Dr. Jen Bennett is this week's guest on Next Step Leadership Podcast. Tracy and Chris are excited for you to hear her wisdom. As an educator, writer, and speaker, Jen never imagined herself doing the work God has her doing. She's continued education and ministry, while serving business leaders for their online presence. Her book Be Worth Following …
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Interview with Ann Byle, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 14
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with author Ann Byle. Last week’s podcast caused listeners to smile as they thought about how a flock of hens can offer wisdom for today’s leaders. Ann continues this week by giving ideas from her years of experience and her latest book, Chicken Sc…
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Interview with Ann Byle, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 13
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Ann Byle offers a wonderful perspective in this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership. Chris and Tracy haven’t invited animals to their podcast, but Ann offers great wisdom from chickens. Her latest book, Chicken Scratch: Lessons on Living Creatively From a Flock of Hens, shows how Ann discovered that her chickens provide valuable insight and insp…
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Interview with Brenda Quinn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 12
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The Next Step Leadership podcast offers a variety of perspectives from many different speakers. Hosts Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope to encourage each person who listens to continue their journey—and to guide many others with them. Brenda Quinn is their guest again this week. What she has learned through Richard Foster and other leaders has …
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Interview with Brenda Quinn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 11
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Tracy and Chris enjoy their conversations with each other and with guests. They hope you enjoy their weekly podcasts and that you are encouraged. This week, their guest Brenda Quinn brings deep wisdom and spiritual care. Brenda is Pastor of Spiritual Formation in Colorado and is passionate about soul care for leaders. That is such a vital topic. Li…
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Interview with Steve Ely, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 10
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Pastor Steve Ely continues as the guest in this episode of Next Step Leadership with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. As mentioned last week, Steve serves as the Director of Clergy Development for the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. He’s also the author of Climate Change, a book about the climate of today’s Christianity. In this convers…
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Interview with Steve Ely, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 9
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Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds enjoyed their conversation with Steve Ely. Steve is the Director of Clergy Development for the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. He has pastored a local congregation and served in various roles of ministry through the years. In his present position, Steve hopes to offer care and encouragement to clergy acro…
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Interview with Steve Spillman, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 8
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This is the second episode of Chris and Tracy’s conversation with Steve Spillman of True Potential. What has God called you to say? How does He want you to tell others your story? How can you help others discover God’s love? Steve offers great wisdom for how to get stories to others. He talks about the latest books by Chris and Tracy, “Equilibrium”…
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Interview with Steve Spillman, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 7
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Have you ever wanted to write a book? Is your story important? Will anyone want to read your story? How can you write and publish a book? Many of today’s leaders are asking those questions and thinking about those possibilities. Tracy Reynolds wrote his first book last year. Chris Maxwell‘s 12th book will be coming out later this year. Their publis…
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Interview with Beth Erwin, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 6
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Beth Erwin is again the guest for Tracy and Chris in the Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, they talk more about the amazing message of Beth’s book Wander No More: Stepping Out of the Wilderness Into Abundant Life. Bad things do happen. Life isn’t always easy. People often distance themselves from God’s love and joy. But we all have a p…
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Interview with Beth Erwin, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 5
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy talk with Beth Erwin. Beth’s book is Wander No More: Stepping Out of the Wilderness Into Abundant Life. She tells her story of a life with many seasons. Coming from a background of pain and sadness to now leading a ministry of healing, Beth offers assurance for those who face difficulties. He…
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Interview with Beth and Eddie Taylor, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 4
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This episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast continues the conversation Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell have with Eddie and Beth Taylor. The Taylors are spending time pouring into the leadership of churches during these difficult seasons. Instead of being defeated by church conflict and division or an anti-church culture, they believe we can walk …
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Interview with Beth and Eddie Taylor, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 3
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People love to listen to stories. Don’t you? As leaders, we all understand the power of narratives. In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Eddie and Beth Taylor tell us their stories. Listen to how God has guided their journeys related to becoming followers of Jesus, marriage, family, their calling into ministry, years of pastoring a local church…
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Interview with Peter Greer, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 2
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This week’s episode of Next Step Leadership continues the conversation with Peter Greer. Tracy and Chris were honored to listen to Peter and learn from his story. Mission work doesn’t always need to be done the same way it has always been done. New opportunities are all around us. What is microbusiness? Why is it important? How can we do more than …
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Interview with Peter Greer, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 1
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It is time for Season Four of Next Step Leadership Podcast with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. Isn’t that hard to believe? Each episode offers audiences a chance to gain information and inspiration. And this week’s podcast is one of the best in all the previous three seasons. Peter Greer, author and President & CEO of Hope International, is the …
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Interview with Jon Shabaglian, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 52
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Jon Shabaglian continues telling his story to Tracy and Chris in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Jon knows about pain, about difficulty, about reconciliation, about praise, about intercession. He offers his insight to us, believing God is calling us all deeper into His presence and into healthy relationships with many others from many places.…
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Interview with Jon Shabaglian, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 51
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In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds interview Jon Shabaglian. Jon is a recording artist, singer, songwriter, and minister seeking to bring God’s hands and people’s hands together. God continues creating psalmists, Jon believes. He tells his story of international influence, family trauma, musical styles,…
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Interview with Seana Scott, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 50
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Seana Scott continues her conversation with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell in this episode of Next Step Leadership. She talks about those people who helped her come to know Jesus and also the need for people to mentor her in that spiritual journey. She is now seeking to be there for those needing the right type of spiritual mentors. Through her w…
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Interview with Seana Scott, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 49
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Tracy and Chris loved their conversation with Seana Scott. They believe you will also. Seana is a biblical teacher and writer. She brings a wonderful perspective on spiritual growth and development. As in most of the first episodes with their guests, Tracy and Chris ask Seana to tell her story. Though she did not grow up in a Christian home, she wa…
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Interview with Bill Schwartz, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 48
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Tracy and Chris are honored to continue their dialogue with missionary, pastor, and leader Bill Schwartz. As Bill reminds us, there will be distractions in life. But he encourages us to have a life statement reminding us that we should “live to make a difference.” He and his family seek to do that. He invites us all to say yes to that invitation. S…
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Interview with Bill Schwartz, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 47
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Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds hope you take time to listen to each podcast. But they want to be sure you do not miss their conversations with missionary, pastor, and leader Bill Schwartz. In this episode you will learn from Bill’s life story. His narrative reminds the audience that there can be deep pain in our stories and clouds over our lives.…
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Interview with Sergio Castro, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 46
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In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their inspiring chat with Sergio Castro. Sergio, his wife and children now live in North Carolina, after years in the nation of Columbia. Sergio displays authentic, humble, caring leadership. Serving now at Living Hope Church, Sergio still helps lead a network of chu…
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Interview with Sergio Castro, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 45
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Chris and Tracy loved their conversation with Sergio Castro. They spent time with Sergio as he moved from the nation of Columbia as a preacher’s kid and attended college at Emmanuel University. Sergio and his wife have served in ministry in Columbia since graduating from Emmanuel, and they now live in North Carolina where Sergio is on staff at Livi…
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Interview with David Cooper, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 44
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Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Pastor David Cooper. As you listen to Pastor Cooper’s decades of wisdom and insight, take notes. His ideas are thoughts needed for today’s leaders. Pastor Cooper loves and lives the values of preaching God’s word, having a deep walk with Jesus, working to reach people for the Kingdom, and guiding the…
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Interview with David Cooper, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 43
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David Cooper is a true leader. Through his years of pastoring, playing music, writing, and speaking, many followers have learned how to take the right steps through Pastor Cooper’s guidance. Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell were honored to spend time with him. Pastor Cooper is the lead pastor of Mount Paran Church near Atlanta, which has over 13,00…
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Interview with Terry A. Smith, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 42
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In their second conversation with pastor and author Terry A. Smith, Tracy and Chris continue a fascinating dialogue. Pastor Smith offers deep insight from his years of leadership and his creative mind. Smith’s book, The Hospitable Leader, provides practical ways for today’s leaders to set biblical examples in this modern culture. Yes, every pastor …
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Interview with Terry A. Smith, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 41
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Tracy and Chris were honored to have a wonderful conversation with pastor and author Terry A. Smith. Terry offers insight for leaders in church, business, and community. Through his years of pastoral leadership, Terry has guided his congregation and his culture to deep care and genuine service. Listen to this episode of Next Step Leadership. Invite…
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Interview with Brian Burgess, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 40
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This episode of Next Step Leadership continues the story of Pastor Brian Burgess. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds could have chosen to just focus on vision and mission, letting Brian offer his insight. He could have told success stories and offered guidance for today’s leaders. But life isn’t easy. Ministry is hard. Leadership carries deep wounds.…
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Interview with Brian Burgess, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 39
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Pastor Brian Burgess brings another timely story to Next Step Leadership. Tracy and Chris invite you to listen to Brian’s story and to learn lessons from his narrative. Brian knows about leading and pastoring. He knows about family and modern trends. He knows about stress and burnout. Brian brings his authentic heart as he talks about how much he h…
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Interview with Shell Osbon, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 38
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This episode of Next Step Leadership continues the conversation with Tracy Reynolds, Chris Maxwell, and their guest Pastor Shell Osbon. He tells more stories from his book “It’s Not Good for Leaders to Lead Alone.” The title of his book is a perfect fit for what Chris and Tracy want each listener to always remember. We need one another. We aren’t t…
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Interview with Shell Osbon, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 37
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Pastor Shell Osbon is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Chris and Tracy believe all the listeners will love hearing Shell’s story. He is a lead pastor and has recently written a leadership book which is the perfect fit for this podcast’s audience, “It’s Not Good for Leaders to Lead Alone.” As Pastor Osbon tells his story, listen and think …
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