Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 4,400+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.
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#197: Strategy | How to Build a Marketing Plan and Get It Approved for 2025 with Rowan Tonkin, CMO at Planful
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In today's challenging business landscape, marketers face the daunting task of not only crafting an efficient marketing plan, but implementing it quickly, proving its value, and continuously adapting the plan on the fly. The ever-changing macroeconomic environment adds an extra layer of complexity, making success even harder to achieve. In this epi…
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#196: Drive | LinkedIn Growth Tips Every B2B CEO and Founder Needs to Know with Devin Reed, Founder of The Reeder
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Devin Reed, Founder of The Reeder and expert in content strategy, shared a session on building a strong personal and company presence on LinkedIn. Devin covers: Identifying your “one word” to own and dominate a category on LinkedIn. Why your co…
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#195: Marketing Leadership | Paddle CMO Andrew Davies on The First Principles of B2B Marketing
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Andrew Davies, CMO at Paddle, a company providing complete payments infrastructure for 4,000+ software businesses globally. Prior to Paddle, he was VP of Corporate Marketing at Optimizely, following the acquisition of his startup. Dave and Andrew talk about the marketing strategy at Paddle, managing a team of 30 m…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just practical insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, discusses the difference between goals, strategies, and tactics—a framework every marketer needs to plan effectively. Matthew explains why strategy is the guiding principle behind y…
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#194: Drive | How to Say No to Your CEO with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic, shared strategies on how to say “no” when faced with competing priorities in marketing. Natalie covers: How to establish a marketing framework that simplifies decision-making and h…
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#193: Growth | From Comms at Zoom to Marketing Leader at Neat, with Priscilla Barolo, Head of Marketing at Neat
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Priscilla Barolo, former head of comms at Zoom (for nearly 10 years, including the pandemic) and current Head of Marketing at Neat, an Oslo-based video tech company. Neat’s tech is used around the world from major enterprises like Atlassian to the White House. With a decade-long career at Zoom, including during it…
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#192: Drive | How To Build A Solo Marketing Business with Lashay Lewis, Founder of Authority Plug
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Lashay Lewis, Founder of Authority Plug, hosted a session on making the transition from in-house marketing to building a solo business. Lashay covers: How to niche down by focusing on one problem for one ideal customer profile. Why it’s importa…
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#191: Drive | How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark, hosted a session on one of B2B's biggest challenges: measurement and attribution. Pranav covers: Why attribution models like first-touch and last-touch are outdated How to prove the incremental impac…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, breaks down a core copywriting skill that every marketer needs: crafting a hook that grabs attention right away. Too often, marketers "bury the hook" by failing to get to the point…
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#190: Strategy | Doing Marketing in a Sales-Led Organization with Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Taylor Udell, Head of Growth at Champify, a sales intelligence platform that helps B2B sales teams identify key contacts for more effective outreach. With experience at companies like Twilio and Heap, Taylor shares the marketing strategies she’s used to drive growth in sales-led organizations. Dave and Taylor cove…
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#189: Product Marketing | Are Product Marketers Actually Marketers? with We're Not Marketer's Podcast
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In this episode, Dave is a guest on the We're Not Marketers podcast, hosted by Zach Roberts (Founder of Break Into Product Marketing), Eric Holland (current Product Marketer at Klue), and Gab Bujold (Founder at Press X to Market). They sit down to talk about Dave’s journey in B2B marketing—from marketing manager to CMO—hosting a podcast for B2B mar…
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In this episode, we’re delivering another B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes—no fluff, just actionable insights. Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, dives into a fundamental principle every B2B marketer should understand: you can't fake urgency. Real urgency isn’t something you create from thin air - it’s something that’s baked…
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#188: Drive | What Makes a Great CMO/VP in B2B Marketing: Panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTO, Amrita Mathur, VP Marketing of Zapier, and Tara Robertson, CMO of Bitly
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This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Dave hosts a marketing leadership panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTo, Tara Robertson, CMO at Bitly, and Amrita Mathur, Head of Marketing at Zapier. These marketing leaders open up about their experiences and share actionable advice to help y…
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#187: Growth | Why Marketers Need Great RevOps Partners with Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps Expert
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps expert, to talk about scaling RevOps in B2B. With over a decade of experience at Drift and other B2B SaaS companies, Sean shares actionable tips for marketers looking to align operations with business goals. Dave and Sean cover: How to build alignment between sal…
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B2B Marketing Micro-Lesson: Why Every B2B Marketing Email Should Have Just One Call to Action
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In this special episode format, we’re testing out and delivering a B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. No fluff—just practical, real-world insights based on what we’re learning each week here at Exit Five. This solo episode features Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, who discusses a key lesson every B2B marketer needs to know:…
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#186: Strategy | How to Simplify ABM with Mason Cosby, Founder of Scrappy ABM
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In this episode, Dave Gerhardt sits down with Mason Cosby, a leader in account-based marketing (ABM) strategy and founder of Scrappy ABM. Dave and Mason unpack how to simplify ABM, create meaningful engagement, and build personalized campaigns that drive real business results. Dave and Mason cover: Why companies should crawl before they walk or run…
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#185: Content | We audited 40 B2B Landing Pages – Here’s What Stood Out with Tas Bober, Founder of Delphium Solutions and Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five
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Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, welcomes back Tas Bober, Founder of Delphinium and expert in landing page optimization. Tas recently audited 40 B2B landing pages submitted by members in the community, and in this episode, she and Matt break down her biggest takeaways and share everything marketers should know about B2B landing pa…
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#184: Brand | How to Get Sales on Board with Your Marketing Content with Kira Federer, VP of SMB Marketing at Paramount
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Kira Federer, VP of SMB Marketing at Paramount Advertising, and formerly at companies like Reddit and Glassdoor. Kira shares her journey from sales to product marketing and the lessons she’s learned along the way. Dave and Kira discuss: How to align marketing and sales through co-creation to ensure your sales te…
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#183: Strategy | How Storylane Grew Organic Traffic 10x Through SEO in 6 Months (with Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane)
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane, a tool that helps companies build interactive product demos. Madhav shares the strategies that helped Storylane scale its website traffic from 25,000 to over 220,000 monthly visitors in just six months, using unique approaches to SEO and demand gen. Dave and Madhav …
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#182: Growth | Building a Strong Brand, Embracing AI, and Leading a Marketing Team with Mychelle Mollot, CMO at Knak
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Mychelle Mollot, CMO at Knak, a platform for creating, designing, and optimizing email and landing page content. Mychelle shares her wealth of experience, having led marketing efforts at IBM and various startups. She discusses her approach to leading marketing teams, scaling brands, and embracing AI in B2B marke…
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Danielle Messler, Head of Content at Exit Five, joins to talk about our first-ever virtual event: The Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites. It's a one day virtual event designed to help make your website better – with live teardowns of real examples submitted by B2B marketers just like you. She covers: What you'll learn if you attend The Ultimate Roast O…
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#181: Content | B2B Copywriting 101 with Will Hoekenga, Founder of Six Words Studio
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Dave sits down with Will Hoekenga, seasoned copywriter and messaging consultant for B2B SaaS brands and founder of Six Words Studio. Will shares his expertise on crafting copy for high-value web pages, like homepages and product pages, that drive conversions and speak directly to customer’s needs. Dave and Will cover: The importance of clear positi…
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#180: Growth | How Clay is Scaling Top-of-Funnel, Creator-Led Marketing, and SEO with Bruno Estrella, Head of Growth Marketing at Clay
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Bruno Estrella, Head of Growth Marketing at Clay, a tool for data enrichment and sales automation. Bruno shares his experience from Webflow to Clay, where he’s leading a mix of product-led and sales-led growth strategies for B2B companies. Dave and Bruno discuss: Building a creator-led marketing program that encou…
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#179: Growth | How to Be Great at Marketing Without Being a Subject Matter Expert with Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room, a leading customer intelligence platform for go-to-market teams. Kevin shares insights from his experience helping teams capture and act on digital breadcrumbs to optimize their marketing and sales efforts. Dave and Kevin cover: How to be a good marketer even when you…
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#178: Website Teardown | Breaking Down the Best Website Experiences in 2024 with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth at Navattic
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In this Exit Five Live session, Dave is joined by Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth at Navattic, a leading interactive demo platform for B2B marketing. Natalie is an expert in optimizing the B2B buyer journey with innovative demo solutions and data-driven strategies. Dave and Natalie cover: Why accessible, usable, and transparent websites is impo…
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Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five sits to talk about our New Marketing Leadership Accelerator Program - an 8 week live program to help you advance your skills and grow your career as a B2B marketing leader. He covers Why structured learning tracks are a good bet for Exit Five What's included in the program and why you should join Wh…
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#177: Brand | Startup Brand Building with Ari Yablok, Head of Brand at Island
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Dave sits down with Ari Yablok, Head of Brand at Island, to share his approach to creating a brand in the cybersecurity space. Ari shares his journey from agency life to leading the brand narrative at Island, where he helped build the concept of the "enterprise browser." Dave and Ari Cover: The key differences between category creation and strategi…
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#176: Product Marketing | Improve the B2B Buying Experience with Interactive Product Demos (with Natalie Marcotullio from Navattic)
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This week, we're sharing a recording from an Exit Five Live Session with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic. She has a background in SEO and digital marketing for B2B sales and marketing SaaS. Over the years, her focus has shifted to full-funnel marketing, GTM strategy, and improving the digital buyer experience.In this …
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#175: Strategy | Enterprise Pipeline Growth and Channel Optimization Strategies with Ruth Zive, 3x CMO and Current CMO at LivePerson
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Dave is joined by Ruth Zive, CMO at LivePerson, who shares her journey in marketing leadership across tech and nonprofits. Ruth talks about aligning marketing and sales teams and navigating enterprise marketing. Ruth and Dave cover: How to align marketing and sales teams by focusing on shared goals and accountability for pipeline outcomes The best-…
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#174: Growth | Leveraging Partnerships to Drive Influence and Revenue with Jared Fuller, COO of OpenEd.co
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Dave is joined by Jared Fuller, Partner and COO of OpenEd.co. Jared talks about his career journey and building businesses in B2B, and shares his expertise in partnerships and the role they play in B2B growth. Jared and Dave cover: How to integrate partner voices into your marketing strategy to create lasting influence and trust Shifting from tradi…
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#173: Strategy | Merging Funnels, Targeting Multiple Personas, and Restructuring Your Marketing Team with Shane Murphy, CMO of Webflow
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Dave is joined by Shane Murphy, CMO of Webflow, where he is scaling one of the most innovative companies in web technology. Shane shares his insights on integrating growth strategies across self-serve and enterprise funnels, building a powerful brand, and targeting diverse personas. Shane and Dave cover: How Webflow combined its self-serve and ente…
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#172: Content Strategy | Building a Brand Strategy and Content Goldmine with Chelsea Castle, Head of Content and Brand at Close
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Dave sits down with Chelsea Castle, Head of Content and Brand at Close. Chelsea talks about her experience in B2B SaaS and shares how to build impactful content that resonates with your audience. Chelsea and Dave cover: How leveraging internal and cross-functional knowledge can create a content goldmine Why it is important to repurpose podcast epis…
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#171: Social Media | How to Grow Your B2B Brand on LinkedIn with Tommy Clark, CEO of Compound
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Dave sits down with Tommy Clark, founder of his own B2B social media agency, Compound, to talk about the ins and outs of social media strategy for B2B companies. Tommy shares his journey from running social for a SaaS company to building his agency and the lessons he’s learned along the way. Tommy and Dave cover: Why LinkedIn is the go-to platform …
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#170: Sales | How Marketers Can Be Better Partners with Sales with Jen Allen-Knuth
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Dave sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen. Jen shares her insights from her 15+ years in B2B Sales, from managing a quota to building great working relationships with marketing. Jen and Dave cover: Co-creating content with Marketing and Sales that drives better customer engagement and grows your pipeline How Jen successfully built h…
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#169: Inside Exit Five | Behind the Scenes of Our Content Strategy and How We’re Building the Team
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Dave sits down with Danielle (Head of Content at ExitFive) to share a behind the scenes look at the content strategy driving ExitFive. Dave and Danielle cover: How to hire a “Head of Content” and what mistakes to avoid Behind the scenes of how ExitFive repurposes content (like this podcast!) The fun challenges of going from a solopreneur to team of…
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#168: Social Media | How to Make Instagram Work for B2B with Jenn Herman
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Dave sits down with Jenn Herman, an expert in Instagram marketing, who shares the untapped potential of Instagram for B2B marketers. With over a decade of experience, Jenn has become a go-to resource for brands looking to leverage Instagram's vast user base to build brand awareness and foster long-term customer relationships. Jenn and Dave cover: W…
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#167: Email | Email Marketing Teardown: Best Practices in 2024 with Jay Schewedelson and Pierce Uijainwalla
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Dave sits down with Knak Co-Founder & CEO Pierce Ujjainwalla, and SubjectLine.com Founder Jay Schwedelson, two experts in the B2B Email Marketing, for a one hour deep dive into what’s working in 2024. They cover: Subject line strategies Design do’s and don’ts What makes a truly great email in 2024 This is a recording of an Exit Five Live session - …
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#165: Strategy | How to Create Data-Driven Content to Build Trust and Stand Out with Emir Atli of HockeyStack
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Dave is joined by Emir Atli, the founder and CRO of HockeyStack. Emir shares insights on his strategic content creation on LinkedIn to building a robust attribution platform that helps B2B marketers optimize revenue and understand customer journeys. Emir and Dave cover: How Emir and his team built a LinkedIn audience before launching their product …
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#166: Content Strategy | Behind the Scenes of Monday.com’s Content Strategy with Eliana Atia and Arielle Gordis
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Dave is joined by Eliana Atia and Arielle Gordis from Monday.com, who drive the content strategy that powers one of the most recognizable brands in SaaS. Eliana, a seasoned content leader, shares how Monday.com’s content team evolved from a small, reactive unit into a strategic powerhouse. Arielle, who leads the thought leadership initiatives, reve…
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#164: Content | Why Better Marketing Starts With Sales with Adam Goyette
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Dave sits down with Adam Goyette, founder of Growth Union and a former marketing leader at G2 and Help Scout. Adam shares his insights from leading growth at top B2B companies to launching his own agency that helps startups scale by integrating holistic growth strategies. Adam and Dave cover: How marketing can drive demos that aren’t qualified and …
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#163: Product | Behind The Scenes of a Successful B2B Product Launch with Zach Roberts and Natalie Taylor
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Dave is joined by Zach Roberts, founder of Break into Product Marketing, and Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule to share. their experiences and strategies for successful product launches in B2B. Zach and Natalie cover: How to build a buyer-focused product launch by understanding and addressing your buyer’s key challenges The power of vide…
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#162: Events | Using VIP Dinners to Drive Pipeline with Natalie Taylor
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Dave is joined by Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule. Natalie shares her journey from getting laid off to finding her dream job through LinkedIn, and how she’s now building meaningful customer relationships through intimate in-person events at Capsule. Natalie and Dave cover: The “intimate dinner strategy” Natalie is running and how it dr…
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#161: Strategy | How to Enter New International Markets, Hiring Locally, and the Content Approval Trap with Max Van Den Ingh
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Dave sits down with Max Van Den Ingh, founder and CEO of Unmuted, a B2B SaaS marketing agency based in Amsterdam. Max shares his insights from his background in Sales, sharing how his approach of building relationships has translated to a successful marketing agency. Max and Dave Cover: His high-touch approach to entering new markets by focusing on…
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#160: Career | Remote Work Loneliness, Embracing Change, and Giving & Receiving Feedback with Kara Hardin
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Dave is joined by Kara Hardin, a Registered Psychotherapist and Lead Executive Officer at The Practice Lab. Kara specializes in the complicated ways that mental health drives performance and how it shows up at work. Drawing from her extensive experience, Kara provides actionable advice for B2B marketers to enhance their professional lives. Kara and…
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#159: Growth | Personalized Gifting, Direct Mail, and AI Driven Outbound with Kris Rudeegraap, CEO and Founder of Sendoso
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Kris Rudeegraap, CEO of Sendoso, a leading platform for direct mail and gifting in B2B marketing. Kris is an expert in using creative direct mail tactics and AI to create profitable marketing campaigns. He has helped numerous companies enhance their engagement and conversion rates through thoughtful and personaliz…
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#158: Career | High-Pressure CMO Roles, Avoiding Burnout, and Growing your Personal Brand with Amanda Goetz
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Dave is joined by Amanda Goetz, a 2x founder, 3x CMO, and the author behind the popular weekly newsletter Life's A Game. Amanda shares her expertise in personal and professional growth, brand building, and content creation. Amanda and Dave cover: How Amanda transformed her LinkedIn strategy to grow her following and engagement The impact of persona…
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#157: Brand | Creating Irresistible LinkedIn Posts, Creating Real-Time Feedback Loops, and What It Means To Be Authentic with Adam Robinson, CEO of Retention.com
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Dave sits down with Adam Robinson, CEO of Retention.com, to go behind the scenes on how he creates so much killer content on LinkedIn and has used his platform to scale not one, but two start ups to over $1m in ARR. Adam and Dave cover: Adam’s focus on creating engaging content that’s authentic Using LinkedIn’s quick feedback loops to refine your m…
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#156: LinkedIn | How to Build a LinkedIn Founder Brand that Drives Revenue with Kait Stephens and Brad Zomick
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Dave sits down with Kait Stephens, co-founder and CEO of Brij, and Brad Zomick, Brij’s former Head of Marketing turned LinkedIn consultant. Dave named Kait the “Queen of Omni-Channel” for good reason — she turned LinkedIn into a powerhouse for her brand to drive leads and revenue for her company, growing to over 15k followers. Kait, Brad, and Dave …
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#155: Inside Exit Five | Creating Webinars People Actually Want to Attend (Behind the Playbook We’re Building)
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) go behind the scenes of our best live session (don’t call it a webinar!) yet. Matt also shares his insights on targeting multiple personas and generating compelling content ideas. Matt and Dave cover: Creating content for multiple personas without losing your brand’s voice Secrets to engaging webinars …
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#154: Content | B2B Landing Pages that Convert to Pipeline (and How You Should Actually Be Using Attribution) with Tas Bober
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Dave is joined by Tas Bober, a B2B digital marketing strategist and top voice on LinkedIn. Tas shares her experience of growing to over 10k followers on LinkedIn, starting by just posting for fun — and how it grew into a thriving niche consulting business. Tas is an expert on landing pages and websites, and she helps marketing teams at companies li…
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