Unprecedented: Sasha Abramsky & Thomas Zimmer on the Crisis We Face

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Sam shares an excerpt from Refuse Fascism's Virtual Forum "Only The People Can Defeat Fascism" featuring commentary from Paul Street and Sunsara Taylor. You can view the entire forum here. She then interviews Sasha Abramsky, author of Chaos Comes Calling and Western Correspondent for The Nation. In this conversation, Sasha discusses the rapid ascent of fascism, emphasizing the dehumanization of vulnerable populations, the role of propaganda, and the transformation of government under the Trump Regime. He highlights the immediate consequences of slashing social programs, the global implications of U.S. policies, and the impact of paramilitary forces on the rule of law. Follow Sasha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/sashaabramsky.bsky.social.

Then Sam interviews historian Thomas Zimmer, co-host of the "Is this Democracy" podcast, to discuss the qualitative transformation of the US government over the course of the last month, through constitutional crisis to the brink of categorically ending constitutional order. The conversation examines the deadly synergy between varied factions and key figures within the fascist movement, highlighting Russel Vought and Elon Musk. Read more from him by subscribing to his substack: http://thomaszimmer.substack.com/. Follow Thomas on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomaszimmer.bsky.social.

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Resources:

• The Dehumanization Is the Point by Sasha Abramsky
• Trump’s January 6 Pardons Were a Green Light to Far Right Paramilitaries by Sasha Abramsky
• Meet the Ideologue of the “Post-Constitutional” Right by Thomas Zimmer
• MAGA Feeding Frenzy Has Caused a Constitutional Crisis by Thomas Zimmer

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown