Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the latest stories and developments in the DevOps space in March 2025, including recent developments with xAI and the coming end of Opsgenie. Reach your business goals with the right DevOps mindset and tooling: https://efcd.co/3RwCYkt…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the reveal of an exciting new technology created by Eficode: SUAMI (Single Unified AI Metrics Indicator). Find out more about Eficode's groundbreaking measurement system designed to quantify the unquantifiable. https://efcd.co/3EeyQT4…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala review Jenkins, its history, and its current state, highlighting its benefits and future impact on the software industry. Additionally, Darren and Pinja share their thoughts and experiences on relevant talks and topics from The DEVOPS Conference. Jumpstart your c…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by Szilárd Széll (DevOps Transformation Lead and Senior Consultant at Eficode), who shares his experience working in testing and quality assurance, his award as Tester of the Year in Finland, and his thoughts on the current landscape. Sign up for The F…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by Heidi Waterhouse (Transformation Advocate and Marketing Advisor) to discuss her upcoming book, Progressive Delivery. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https://www.thedevopsconference.com/london…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the latest stories and developments in the DevOps scene in February 2024, including Le Chat and the Majorana 1 processor. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https://www.thedevopsconference.com/london…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the 50th anniversary of the Helsinki Final Act, its history, and the importance of cybersecurity as a whole. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https://www.thedevopsconference.com/london…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by Lauri Palokangas and Henri Hämäläinen to discuss the history of The DEVOPS Conference and highlight why events like The Future of Software are important to the software industry. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https:/…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by Heikki Hämäläinen and Hannah Waller to reminisce on the history of DevOps, The DEVOPS Conference, and what to look forward to in The Future of Software. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https://www.thedevopsconference.c…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala round up the latest industry news for January 2025, including current stories on DevOps, technology, and AI. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 2025): https://www.thedevopsconference.com/london…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala are joined by Henri Terho to discuss DeepSeek, the newest AI model released from China that's been making headlines on social media. They also share their thoughts on what open source means for AI in general. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the concept of psychological leadership and how to identify psychological challenges in the workplace and implement solutions for them to improve work, processes, and morale in your organization. Sign up for The Future of Software in London (March 26, 202…

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Darren and Pinja share their thoughts on liminal spaces and ideas on how transitional spaces can be applied to software development. Darren and Pinja also note that AI is shifting the software development landscape, highlighting the trends organizations will need to adapt to stay on top. For more info…

Send us a text This DevOps Sauna episode discusses the impact of AI and Bots on social media. Darren Richardson and Pinja Kujala discuss the impact of artificial intelligence and bot accounts on social media platforms like X and Bluesky and the wider implications AI will have on these platforms in the future. Sign up for The Future of Software in L…

Send us a text This episode of the DevOps Sauna gives a recap on all of the speaker talks and topics at The Future of Software in Helsinki. Marc and Darren sit down with Pinja Kujala to discuss all of the fun and exciting talks at The DEVOPS Conference, as well as share their own stories and experiences with each of the speakers and organizations t…

Send us a text This episode recaps all the speaker talks and topics at The DEVOPS Conference 2024 in Copenhagen and Stockholm. Marc and Darren sit down and discuss all of the fun and exciting talks at The DEVOPS Conference, from stories on how value stream management empowers DevOps to how Observability 2.0 is changing the software landscape. Sign …

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Marc and Darren discuss the latest stories in DevSecOps, including using AI for automating governance and an increased focus on companies using RAG models to help leverage internal documentation to streamline DevSecOps tasks. Marc and Darren also highlight other developments, including IBM acquiring H…

Send us a text In this episode, Darren and Marc are joined by Dan Grøndahl and Emma Dahl-Jeppesen. Emma and Dan advocate for a product-driven approach to platform engineering, with clear boundaries and purpose to prevent team burnout—a shift from traditional, sometimes ambiguous DevOps roles. They humorously explore “10 things we hate about platfor…

Send us a text This episode delves into the key topics surrounding security, SBOMs (Software Bill of Materials), AI, and the seamless integration of security tools into DevOps. Priyanka Syal emphasizes the importance of transparency in both software and training data, especially as AI introduces new challenges around ethics and security. Darren add…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren chat with Charity Majors, co-founder and CTO of Honeycomb. They explore how Charity balances a public role in tech, her thoughts on leadership, and the importance of building diverse, inclusive teams. Charity opens up about her journey with Honeycomb, her personal life, and why she values hiring junio…

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Marc and Darren are joined by Dan Khurram to discuss a white paper that originated from a collaborative workshop focused on AI scenarios. The workshop, which involved various experts, explores the potential impacts of AI on businesses. The conversation delves into the process behind creating the white…

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Marc and Darren discuss the recent arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov by French authorities over allegations of failing to moderate criminal activities on the platform. They explore the complexities of Telegram's encryption practices, noting that while the platform claims to offer secure communica…

Send us a text Helen Beal, a renowned expert in DevOps and Value Stream Management (VSM), steps into the sauna with Marc and Darren to discuss the significance of experimentation in production environments and the role of leadership in driving successful DevOps transformations. Helen also explores the evolution and importance of Value Stream Manage…

Send us a text Marc and Darren discuss the recent CrowdStrike root cause analysis (RCA) following a significant incident where an update to their Falcon sensor caused around 8 million Windows computers to crash. The incident was traced back to an error in the software update that expected 20 inputs but received 21, leading to widespread blue screen…

Send us a text In this season finale, Marc and Darren take a reflective journey through the most compelling episodes of late, encapsulating key themes in DevOps, AI, and security while reflecting on the insights shared by notable guests such as Amanda Brock and Cheryl Hung. They revisit key discussions on topics such as the challenges of AI in infr…

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna season 4, Darren and Marc delve into key DevOps and security updates, focusing on GitHub's potential new standard for SBOMs and its collaboration with JFrog. They joke about their reliance on ChatGPT, given its recent outage, and discuss the concerning frequency of cyber attacks, referencing significan…

Send us a text Dan Plumbley, Eficode's first GitLab champion, joins hosts Marc and Darren for an episode exploring GitLab. The discussion highlights GitLab's holistic approach, incorporating project management, CICD pipelines, and security features within a single platform. Dan covers the integration of open-source tools that provide a seamless use…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc's anecdote about resolving a stuck bike axle underscores the importance of having diverse tools and approaches when tackling problems—a principle that extends to security where relying solely on one method can lead to vulnerabilities. Exploring the value of diverse strategies, redundancy, and rapid feedback loop…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren are joined by Sven Peters, Developer Advocate at Atlassian, discussing enhancing developer joy and productivity. Sven emphasizes that developers often understand their own problems, and management should listen to them. He discusses the increased cognitive load from responsibilities like observability…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren are joined by colleagues Henri and Kalle to discuss the proactive role of DevOps in integrating AI into organizations. They emphasize the importance of robust security measures to manage risks and highlight the benefits and challenges of using AI, particularly large language models (LLMs), for apps li…

Send us a text Darren and Marc discuss the EU AI Act, the world's first regulation on artificial intelligence development. The Act, aimed at controlling and putting guardrails on AI development, is seen as a step towards addressing potential risks associated with AI, such as manipulation, bias, and exploitation. While acknowledging the Act's spirit…

Send us a text In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Marc and Darren are joined by Eficode UX and Accessibility Lead Annika, who emphasizes the importance of considering accessibility requirements and various user needs from the outset of any project. She shares her journey into accessibility work, highlighting its significance and intersection with use…

Send us a text Marc and Darren discuss various topics, including the implications of edge computing on DevOps, the emergence of AI-generated code, controversies surrounding open-source licenses, the rise of start-ups focused on automating DevOps tasks, the widespread use of AI among developers, and the need for responsible innovation with Generativ…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren host Cheryl Hung, Senior Director of Infrastructure Ecosystem at Arm and founder of Cloud Native London. They discuss Arm's expanding role beyond mobile devices into data centers and infrastructure, highlighting increased software support for Arm processors. The conversation touches on trends like Git…

Send us a text In this episode of the DevOps Sauna podcast, Amanda Brock, CEO of OpenUK, explores the impact of AI-generated code on open source software. She addresses licensing complexities, ownership issues, and maintainer responsibilities. The discussion also covers the misuse of open source in AI contexts and concerns about regulations like th…

Send us a text Darren and Marc discuss the concept of repatriation in DevOps in this episode of DevOps Sauna, advocating for a return to manual deployment and bare metal servers. They discuss the importance of treating servers like pets rather than cattle, emphasizing hands-on care and control over automated processes. They also touch on topics suc…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren explore stress in IT, covering the signs, types, and management strategies. They share personal experiences and offer practical tools like the three and four-panel methods for addressing stress-inducing situations. They advocate for seeking professional help, breaking the stigma around mental health c…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Darren discuss the feasibility and implications of creating a fully open source toolchain for software development. They explore various aspects of the toolchain, including version control, compliance, secure storage, documentation, task management, and more. Specific tools and their suitability for differen…

Send us a text This episode explores the concept of value stream mapping, emphasizing transparency, prioritization, and continuous improvement to optimize value creation within organizations. Through discussions on feedback loops and breaking down silos, Marc and Darren empower listeners with insights to enhance their software development processes…

Send us a text Darren and Marc discuss incident response in cybersecurity in this episode, with a focus on the importance of disconnecting rather than shutting down during security incidents. They cover the four phases of incident response: Discovery, analysis, action, and postmortem, highlighting the shift in cybersecurity from prevention to effec…

Send us a text Marc and Darren address the resistance to change within organizations when it comes to adopting new technology. They cover the challenges of traditional command and control hierarchies in modern workplaces, emphasizing the importance of involving knowledge workers in the change process for successful adoption. Also highlighted is the…

Send us a text In this podcast episode, Marc and Darren discuss platform engineering, with a focus on how to start building an effective platform from scratch in 2024. They emphasize the importance of erasing past mistakes, standardizing tooling, and gaining management buy-in. Marc and Darren advocate a balanced approach that prioritizes getting so…

Send us a text Darren and Marc highlight the importance of going all in on a platform transformation, emphasizing the need for commitment and investment. They discuss the shift towards internal developer platforms and the challenges of overcoming ill-defined areas in platform engineering. The conversation touches on common pitfalls, including the d…

Send us a text Marc and Darren are joined by Andrew Martin, founder and CEO of control-plane.io, to discuss the challenges of securing Kubernetes for different user levels and the evolution of security practices in DevOps. They emphasize collaboration between development and security teams and the importance of tools like OSCAL for automating secur…

Send us a text In this episode, Marc and Andy are joined by the VP of Engineering at Showpad, Patrick Debois. They discuss GenAI and the metaverse, emphasizing their significance in the industry. Patrick reflects on his famous quote about DevOps breaking silos and how the industry has evolved from large to smaller, more collaborative teams. They de…

Send us a text In this episode, Andy, Marc, and Pinja discuss their experiences at The DEVOPS Conference Scandinavia 2023. They highlight several key themes and speakers from the event, including transformations, AI, Developer Experience (DX), and platform engineering. Some notable speakers mentioned include those from Saxo Bank, Adobe, HSBC, Spoti…

Send us a text Marc and Andy discuss initiatives related to open source in the context of AI with Amanda Brock, who highlights the importance of open source as a means of transparency and accountability, allowing people to inspect and understand the code they use. They also touch on topics like investing in open source as a way to support the globa…

Send us a text David Keane shares insight with Marc and Andy into the challenges of implementing DevOps at scale in HSBC. Learn about the positive impact of DevOps on cost control and security for gaining buy-in, along with the importance of breaking down silos, promoting collaboration, and fostering a culture of accountability. David also tells of…

Send us a text David and Ronnie from WirelessCar join Marc and Andy in the DevOps Sauna, focusing on helping teams with DevOps and team development. In a thought-leadership experiment, David and Ronnie stress the importance of involving the whole team when someone takes the initiative to solve a problem. They also discuss the DevOps Health Radar fr…

Send us a text Marc and Andy are joined by Cisco Senior Developer Advocate Adrienne Tacke. They discuss her upcoming talk on code reviews and more at The DEVOPS Conference in Scandinavia. Also covered: The challenges of measuring developer productivity using DevOps Research and Assessment (DORA) metrics Code reviews, team dynamics, and the potentia…