This Social Emotional Learning (#SEL) podcast shares actionable wisdom from the global community of inspiring teachers and parents. Featuring fresh, effective perspectives and practices designed to equally benefit students, teachers, community. Episodes always include: • Solution-oriented insights around: emotions, thinking skills, empathy, trust, social justice, and much more • Research-based • Experience-validated • Actionable advice Especially helpful for, but not limited to, ECE (early c ...
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We are a group of friends, educators, and scholars (but hopefully not the gate-keeping kind) who use podcasting to speak critically, honestly, and open-mindedly about the excitements and concerns we have about social and emotional learning (SEL). What happens when sociality and emotionality, two things that have always been a part of learning, become seen as measurable in a world of marketized and self-managed education? How can we bust SEL out of any boxed-in definitions, and how might we u ...
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SEL and More-Than-Human Entanglements
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50:56Gut bacteria, viruses, microbes, sand and soil…in this episode, we acknowledge how sociality and emotionality are always embedded within human-nonhuman entanglements. How can SEL be extended to recognize and nurture these entanglements? If SEL is to move from a humanist to a “posthumanist” stance, one that knocks humans off the top of the species h…
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SEL and Cultural Appropriation: Mindfulness and Yoga
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54:05Drawing on our own experiences and associations with yoga and meditative practices, we investigate the rise of mindfulness and yoga in SEL programs. Substantial research touts the benefits of these practices across age groups, and yet we wonder what pieces get lost or left behind as these practices are imported into the Western colonial landscape o…
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Let’s talk politics! As SEL becomes increasingly situated in the midst of educational “culture wars” between the political left and right, we decided to devote an entire episode to discussing how this polarization has happened and what it means. Is SEL a “Trojan Horse for Critical Race Theory,” as some conservative groups argue? Is it an innocently…
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SEL and Settler Colonialism
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1:07:43Sequoia leads us through grounding activities to open and close our discussion about the settler-colonial underpinnings of social and emotional learning (SEL). Together, we grapple with critical questions about how and whether SEL can truly become culturally responsive, sustaining, or revitalizing. Where do issues of cultural appropriation crop up,…
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Our last episode was all about the self, and now we turn to the social. SEL not only focuses on promoting “self” regulation and “self” awareness--it also emphasizes expressing emotion to others, recognizing emotion in others, and building relationships. As per usual, we ask a lot of questions: How are private aspects of the self measured, verbalize…
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To know thyself is the beginning of wisdom, says Socrates. Self-awareness and self-management appear as central components of most SEL programs, and self-improvement, self-help, and self-care are buzzwords in our daily lives. We devote this episode to contemplating what exactly is the self? What kind of “self” does SEL seek to develop, and what und…
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Neo-what? We’re back with our third episode to discuss how SEL is entangled with the for-profit world of marketization and self-surveillance in some pretty concerning ways. We make space to discuss what we actually mean when we use words like “critical,” “capitalism,” and “neoliberalism,” and we contemplate SEL’s strong emphases on individual respo…
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SEL and Social Crisis…Who and What is the Problem?
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52:10The sky is always falling! Or is it? SEL is often positioned as the response to a message of “society in crisis,” “children in crisis,” “schools in crisis,” or all of the above. In this message, SEL is usually framed as the solution, and sometimes in saviorist or surefire-cure ways. Building on Episode 1, we continue to unpack the social, political…
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Starting the Conversation: Critical Dialogue Around Social and Emotional Learning
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51:55Welcome to the inaugural episode of our podcast series, “Unboxing SEL!” We come together as a group of friends, educators, and scholars to discuss social and emotional learning in ways that do not frequently occur in K-12 and higher education. Join us in this episode as we introduce ourselves, talk through our goals, and share initial thoughts/conc…
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Ep. 117, Strong-Willed Kids, with Kirk Martin
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44:05If you've noticed that the standard responses of many teachers and parents to the strong-willed and neurodivergent kids in their care only creates more problems - for everyone, then you really want to tune into this conversation with Kirk Martin. Kirk is a master at providing deeply effective and easily implemented strategies that actually make lif…
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Ep. 116 - Defending SEL and Teachers' Professional Development, with Elizabeth Peterson
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52:31Welcome again to the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning podcast, even though this upcoming conversation, in defense of SEL, is one I would never have predicted needing to be shared… but, and you don’t need me to tell you: these are wild times, in which just about any topic, especially around education, can ignite extreme and heated reactions. So…
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Ep. 115 - Developing Clear-Headed, Unbiased Thinkers
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10:05We see so much division, and it's terrifying some of us. People trying to change others opinions is not doing much more than splitting us further apart, because (research has proven, beyond a doubt) people will ground into their own opinions, their own biases, their own perspectives when they experience differences of opinions and ideas.What to do?…
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Ep. 114 - Artfully Integrating SEL Into All Subjects, with Elizabeth Peterson
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46:05In this episode of the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Podcast, I share conversation with Elizabeth Peterson, a 3rd grade teacher in the state of New Hampshire. Our conversation started with Elizabeth’s deeply considered definition of a term with which we’re all familiar: whole child. I wanted to learn her personal perspective, because I feel…
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Ep. 113 - Serving Students Who Are Deaf and Hard of Hearing with Necessary SEL Supports
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1:31:13You know how sometimes you learn about something you didn’t have even a clue about the fact that you were completely unaware of what you didn’t know? That’s what happened to me in the following conversation with Sherri Fickensher who is an Education Support Specialist, serving deaf and hard of hearing students at Clarke Schools for Hearing and Spee…
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Ep. 112 - Autism in Context for True SEL, with Peter Vermeulen, Ph.D.
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1:02:13Peter Vermeulen, Ph.D., doesn't feel there's much value in ‘defining’ people on the #autism #spectrum by describing their difficulties around social interaction, communication, patterns of behavior, etc., etc. - because he sees all those elements as #consequences of having brains that work in #autistic ways. Conversely, he's written that autism can…
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Ep. 111 - Science & Sense: Kids Need More Decision Making Opportunities
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1:23:53Instagram link to the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Podcast Here’s a link to a Bill’s book: The Self-Driven Child, showing the Table of Contents to give you a quick overview of the book’s value. Here’s a link to a quick YouTube video that explains the difference between Fixed Mindset and Growth Mindset… and here’s another way to understand …
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Ep. 110 - Speech, Language & SEL, with Rona Weintraub
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1:32:30Communication is a major component of children’s social and emotional learning and development… but some children experience persistent challenges with one or more elements that are necessary for successful verbal communication… and then they can spiral into frustration, or negative self-image, or retreat into various forms of social isolation... s…
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Ep. 109 - Differences are Natural
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18:14Too few parents and teachers are having actual back-and-forth conversations with young kids… conversation that last for awhile, that have a progression, that build on exchanged ideas… What a wasted opportunity if ever there was one… in terms of bonding, building trust, and because the brain development that can happen when back-and-forth conversati…
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Ep. 108 - Personalities, Patterns and Perspectives, with Monica Wesolowska
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58:01https://monicawesolowska.com/leo-lea Author, Editor, Speaker, Teacher Leo + Lea, illustrated by Kenard Pak (Scholastic, August 2022)Elbert in the Air, illustrated by Jerome Pumphrey (Dial, February 2023) Holding Silvan: A Brief Life (Hawthorne, named a "Best Book" of 2013) So… just a quick reminder to check out Monica’s website for more info and a …
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Ep. 107 - SEL, CRT and Critical Thinking
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17:25Connect with me on Instagram - on the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Podcast page: https://www.instagram.com/nini.white/ SEL is about the human and humane sides of all our actions and interactions… and since “different” people ARE treated differently in the world, on the street, in the classroom, on playgrounds… differences must be acknowled…
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Ep. 106 - Life-Changing Info About Food’s Influence on Behavior and Learning Difficulties, with Dawn Navaratnasingam, Board Certified Holistic Health Coach
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42:25Please join our Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Facebook group.Working and living with young children is never without challenges… most of us were mostly aware of that fact when we jumped into teaching and/or when we became parents.The thing is: there are challenges and then there are CHALLENGES. Some challenges that the young ones in our liv…
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Ep. 105 - Homeschooling and SEL - with Emma Westphal, Dawn Navaratnasingam, and Liz Sheffield
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1:26:16Homeschooling has really come up in the world thanks, in no small part, to the pandemic we all just lived through. In this episode we get to learn from 3 parents who share heartfelt insights that have led to, literally, expanding and deepening their definitions of parenthood, family life, and even how they perceive the role of education for kids, a…
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Ep. 104 - The Great Outdoors and SEL, with Maggie O'Reilly, MOT, OTR/L
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1:02:52“If children are to keep alive their inborn sense of wonder, they need the companionship of at least one adult who can share in their sense of wonder, by rediscovering with them the joy, excitement, and mystery of the world we live in." ~ Rachel Carson Maggie O’Reilly is an Occupational Therapist (OT) who uses a strengths-based approach, along with…
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Ep. 103 - Destination Imagination, with Adam Law
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1:16:20We hear a lot in educational circles about preparing today’s youth for the future, most often in terms of increasing academic scores and achievements, but Destination Imagination casts an even wider net, by inspiring and equipping Kindergartners - 12th graders to imagine, innovate and collaboratively problem solve, with peers, while focusing on STE…
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Ep. 102 - ADHD's Many Manifestations, with Holly Seerley (LMFT)
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1:28:13First thing: Please accept Holly's invitation to ask questions (and share stories, too). You can post your questions by connecting with us on the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Podcast FACEBOOK PAGE. Here's the marvelous (short YouTube) link of Sir Ken Robinson describing a young girl who barely escaped a terrible life by being misdiagnosed.…
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Ep. 101 - Developing Antiracist, Pro-Human Students, with Afrika Afeni Mills
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56:34Afrika Afeni Mills is an Education Consultant and the author of Open Windows, Open Minds: Developing Antiracist, Pro-Human Students. Afrika is all about helping teachers, coaches and administrators develop and sustain student-centered learning experiences that are diverse, that are inclusive, and that are equitable. Afrika is brilliant at providing…
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Ep. 100 - PBL & SEL, with Mike Kaechele
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37:08One of my mentors emphasizes beginning with the end in mind… and very clearly that is one point of focus for Mike Kaechele, who is convinced that we don’t need to prepare students for “someday,” but that they should take on meaningful work right now… no matter their age.Mike is a teacher with over 20 years experience, and he’s an author. Mike is al…
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Social Emotional Learning (SEL) is as wide-reaching as any subject matter that we can be incorporating into our students' education and development. The way to experience most success at our efforts to nurture kids' SEL is to give careful attention to maintaining a healthy balance between the 2 root definitions of "EDUCATION." Teachers need courage…
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Ep. 98 - Respect: Short Term & Long Term Benefits
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16:27Everyone, even (and maybe especially) little ones, feel when they're respected (and when they're not). This episode is a quick look at the deeper elements of, as well as the long term impacts of early exposure to, respect. If you would like to receive the PDF of a cool poster inspired by today's topic, please send a quick note to me and ask for it:…
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Ep. 97 - The Importance of Being Seen for SEL Progress, with Angela Dalton
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1:00:11Angela Dalton lives in Oakland, California, has a background in producing online kids’ games, and is a published children’s book authorAngela’s books center Black children as main characters in ways she wishes she had seen when she was growing up… which is another reason I loved sharing conversation with this woman: she had a frustrating, unsatisfy…
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Ep. 96 - Social Justice Conversations in Preschool, with Nadia Jaboneta and Brian Silveira
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46:19Brian Silveira and Nadia Jaboneta are Pedagogical Leaders at Pacific Primary Preschool in San Francisco, California. They each bring about 25 years experience as Early Childhood Educators, and clearly that combination of 50 years teaching experience has only deepened their commitment to providing relevant and alive education for their young student…
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Ep. 95 - Songs for Engaging & Encouraging Kids' SEL, with Dave Fromer's music
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15:37In this episode of the Big Picture Social Emotional Learning Podcast you’ll be introduced to Dave Fromer, and his multi-awarding winning album that teachers and parents love, thankfully… because young kids love listening to Dave’s song’s over and over and over again. Do you use songs to help improve and manage transitions during the day? Songs that…
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Ep. 94 - More About the Directions of Season 2
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13:20How we see the kids in our care, (whether they’re in our classroom, our Afterschool facility or our home), how we see them… determines how much they can grow and develop as a result of our influence. Kahlil Gibran quote: Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not …
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This is a quick update on why episodes have been so sporadic for the last couple of years and, more importantly, why this is a whole new season for solutions-oriented episodes around all things social emotional learning (SEL). This season we'll be incorporating, amongst many other relevant SEL topics, the important work of equity and inclusion that…
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Ep. 92 - SEL's Benefits for Educators, with Kelley Munger, Ph.D.
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56:08Educators need SEL development, too. Maybe even more than students, because when educators have age-appropriate SEL development and skills, they are empowered to bring more of their best selves into every day's interactions with students and peers... and isn't that a BIG part of what it's really all about?!!!!! Listen to this important conversation…
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Ep. 91 - SEL for Academic, Career and Life Success, with David Adams
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56:44In today’s episode, I share conversation with David Adams, CEO of Urban Assembly, and definitely a BIG PICTURE kind of educator. In this conversation, David explains the how’s and why’s of Urban Assembly’s approach to building schools’ cultures, which are 100% centered on developing students’ social emotional competencies for success in school, and…
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Ep. 90 - The Moving Target of "Normal," with Prof. Sugata Mitra
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1:03:38We hear a lot about ‘returning to normal’ these days, especially in response to Covid. To me, the term ‘normal' has become a marginally meaningless cliché, so I was intensely intrigued when I came across a blog post by Sugata Mitra in which he comments on a legitimate concept of ‘normal’ for these times… especially in direct relationship to the edu…
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Ep. 89 - Lessons from Covid for SEL Success, with Dr. Rachelle Rogers-Ard
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1:11:10There is so much we white educators need to understand that we do not currently understand or even see. But we can can see and understand more, so that we succeed more meaningfully with our students of color. Of course that involves becoming aware of our blindspots. Rachelle and I also talked about many teachers’ sense that we need full time contro…
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scientists have been studying crying, and they’ve divided the tears that come from crying into three distinct categories: reflex tears, continuous tears, and emotional tears. The first of those two categories - reflex tears - perform the important function of removing irritants, such as smoke and dust from our eyes. The 2nd of those 2 categories, c…
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Ep. 87 - Neuro-Nurturing with Deborah McNelis
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55:02Deborah McNelis is one of my favorite kinds of educators and people, because Deborah is in it for the love of it. She has her Masters degree in Education, she’s an author, speaker and, most helpful for you, dear listener… Deborah has created the Neuro-Nurturing Interaction Packets for the specific purposes of supporting children in feeling seen, ac…
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Ep. 86 - Critical Thinking Skills & SEL
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19:04If you’d like to receive an electronic copy of the resource I’ve been sharing with you on this episode, just drop a line to me. My email address is [email protected]. That’s where you can share your thoughts, make requests for future topics on this podcast… anything. I love to connect with listeners. Thanks for being here… and I hope to hear fr…
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Ep. 85 - Fatherhood Wisely Considered, with Jordan Shapiro, PhD
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53:29Today’s guest is Jordan Shapiro, PhD, who is kind of a ‘big deal,’ since he’s globally respected as an American thought leader. (I’ve included a link to his website in this show’s notes so you can learn about his wide-ranging accomplishments.) Jordan’s internationally respected perspective combines research in psychology, philosophy, and economics …
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Ep. 84 - Insights for Teaching (and Living) Anti-Racist Values, with Larissa Wright-Elson
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57:12Here are the basic points from Larissa's article: Our words and actions must match. Reading options for students must be broadened to provide wider perspectives from other races and cultures. Conversations are necessary... even, and especially, the ones around 'difficult' topics. Listening is a big and necessary element for meaningful conversations…
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Ep. 83 - Disfiguring Accidents Require Conscious SEL Skills from Everyone, with Margaret Kugler, MS
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28:54When traumatic accidents occur, resulting in serious injuries and permanent disfiguration, knowledgable guidance is essential for healing and for everyone's ability to adapt, constructively, to build the best possible life, moving forward. Margaret Kugler, MS, is the Transition Coordinator for children who come from all over the country to Shriners…
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Ep. 82 - A Very Big Picture Perspective on SEL
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42:21Details are good, essential really, but when we get lost in them, tied down to them and we lose the big picture... everyone loses. Everyone.
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Ep. 81 - CONSENT - a very important SEL topic, with Sarah Casper
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45:16We all know that communication… clear, honest and mutually respectful communication is a foundational element of solid social emotional skills. Today’s guest has developed an approach that focuses in on a very specific channel of communication: CONSENT. Sarah Casper, will give us an overview of her understanding about the day-by-day, hour-by-hour, …
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Ep. 80 - Stretching Possibilities & SEL, with Monick Halm
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43:42There was so much I appreciated about this conversation. In particular, the fact that my guest, Monick Halm, independently grew her on social emotional skills by noticing what worked for her peers and then she experimented with bringing those observations into her own interactions. I also love what Monick shared with us about the power and importan…
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Please accept this offer of help. Send a quick email to me with answers to the 3 questions, below: [email protected] Social emotional challenge your kids/students are encountering. Kids' age. If you want to, include a brief description of how you've tried to help them resolve that specific challenge. ............................................…
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Ep. 78 - Real Talk with Kids, with Cassie Tondreau
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40:47Cassie Tondreau is a loved and well-respected educator, and based on her many years of experience, she knows, without a doubt, that children can be trusted to ask for deeper explanations and understanding … when they need them. In this conversation about challenging, even disturbing topics, including Covid-19, Cassie encourages us to be sensitive t…
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Ep. 77: Students Care About SEL, with Dominique Brooks
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29:06We have so much to learn from our students, and we have so much to gain by opening up to their insights and their view on the world in this time of massive changes across the globe. SEL does not have to be delivered through some organized curriculum. In fact, all that's really needed is real connections. Connections in class don't have to be perfec…
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