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Rewriting the Rules®

St. Paul Youth Services

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Rewriting the Rules® interviews community and business leaders, youth champions, and other radicals whose work builds on the power and genius fundamental to Black communities, Indigenous Communities, and Communities of color. We shine a light on the legacies of creativity, strength and innovation sustaining these communities and offer practical tools for building smart, fair, and loving communities. The podcast is hosted by Dr. Tracine Asberry, Executive Director of St. Paul Youth Services, ...
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Women Rewriting the Rules

Sumi Krishnan & Ashley Baxter

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Let’s be honest. Being a happy, fulfilled and successful modern woman requires a new set of skills and perspectives that more of us need to be talking about! We’re having babies later, partnering differently, and facing challenges our ancestors never had to deal with, all while looking to create financial independence and make our unique contribution to the world within a fragile social and political environment. This is the Women Rewriting the Rules podcast. The show that helps you navigate ...
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In this episode of Rewriting the Rules®, we take listeners to a YouthPowerMN℠ Leadership Institute celebration following SPYS’ business partnership event with Allina Health called There’s a Career for You in Healthcare. This partnership event included a mentorship over 3-months between Allina Health adult leaders and SPYS’ YouthPowerMN℠ Leadership …
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St. Paul Youth Services (SPYS) continues to Amplify Youth Voice & Power to Contribute to Our Community in this episode of Rewriting the Rules®. For this podcast conversation, our host Dr. Tracine Asberry chats with youth author Miles Asberry-Wallace and his best friend Connor Walford about games as a tool for learning. The young people share insigh…
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Pushing limits is quite honestly a healthy part of youth development. How we respond to young people when they act out can dramatically alter the course of their lives for the better or much, much worse. At SPYS, we’re creating a community-wide culture in which young people feel not just welcome, but wanted everywhere they go. We are showing youth …
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In Part 3 of our “LIVE” Event Recording! Series, guests who joined us to hear from youth author & illustrator Miles Asberry-Wallace asked him questions about his creative journey. In this episode, you’ll hear insights from Miles about his process and plans for the future. The launch of Miles’ first published comic book, Kings of Quests: A Tale of B…
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In Part 2 of our “LIVE” Event Recording! Series, Youth Host Connor Walford conducts “man on the street” interviews with guests joining us to hear from Youth Author & Illustrator Miles Asberry-Wallace and share their favorite books, authors, and reasons why reading is important to critically and creatively make sense of and navigate our world, our l…
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For our second episode of Rewriting the Rules® Season 3, we’re launching a three-episode series resulting from SPYS’ Podcast “LIVE” Event Recording held on Wednesday, February 7th. The youth-led event explored the power of dreams, the power of our stories, and the power of a beloved community that wraps its arms around one inspiring Black young man…
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For Season 3, Ep. 1, of Rewriting the Rules®, we are talking about L.O.V.E.— With everything going on in the world. And all the things that we’re focused on locally and nationally, we rarely see or hear about the opportunities we, as adults, create to engage our young people in conversations about love. For this episode, we take time to speak with …
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For our seventh episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we’re shining a light on Georgina Lorencz, whose work builds on power and genius fundamental to Black communities. Our host, Dr. Tracine Asberry, talks with Georgina about her work helping people to connect to their roots and identity. Our aim with the conversation is to tell the truth. We d…
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For our sixth episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we’re continuing our focus on being the adult we wished we had as a child and teen from the perspectives of our business leaders. This is how we continue Creating a Community That Wraps Its Arms Around Our Youth. For today’s episode, we welcome Frederick Bw’Ombongi, a leader in the health care…
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For our fifth episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we’re continuing our focus on being the adult we wished we had as a child and teen, from the perspectives of our mothers and grandmothers. For this episode, host Dr. Tracine Asberry, Executive Director of St. Paul Youth Services, has a Sunday Dinner Conversation with two of our loving experts …
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For our fourth episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we’re continuing our focus on being the adult we wished we had as a child and teen, from the perspectives of our mothers and grandmothers. This is how we continue to create a community that wraps its arms around our youth. For today’s episode, we welcome back two of our mothers and loving exp…
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For our third episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we’re continuing our focus on being the adult we wished we had as a child and teen, from the perspectives of our mothers. For this episode, we’re taking a panel approach, mirroring a Sunday Dinner conversation. Through this conversation, we listen, learn, and build in community and see that we…
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For our second episode of Rewriting the Rules℠ Season 2, we focused on Creating a Community That Wraps Its Arms Around Our Youth. Our host, Dr. Tracine Asberry, Executive Director of St. Paul Youth Services (SPYS), spoke with one of her former SPYS’ Behavior Intervention Program Specialists, longtime community leader, and current licensed social wo…
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We're back for a new season at Rewriting the Rules℠ with Dr. Lee-Ann Stephens, Minnesota Teacher of Year (2006). Lee-Ann joins the podcast to kick off Season 2 by welcoming students back into the classrooms across the globe, detailing evidence on what makes a GREAT teacher in the classroom, AND offering recommendations to decision-makers locally, n…
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Thank you for joining us on Season One of the Rewriting the Rules podcast!! This season, we explored the legacies of strength, creativity, and innovation in Black communities, Indigenous communities, and communities of color. It’s been a joy and a labor of love to get to sit in conversation with all of our amazing guests and to share their wisdom w…
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Kyra Bester-Hughes is a remarkable youth leader and a friend of St. Paul Youth Services. She joins the podcast for a fearless conversation that explores some of the mistakes adults have made when working with her through challenging times; as well as what they’ve gotten right. Tracine and Kyra also talk about SPYS’ youth-centric approach, where Kyr…
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What does it mean to live fully and free? In this episode, Tracine invites longtime friend, Jason Jackson, a Human Resources Diversity and Inclusion consultant for HealthPartners (a US-based Medical Insurance Company) into our ongoing discussion on how the practice of love shows up in our work and in our lives. For this episode, they explore the co…
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Emerging fiction, picture book, and comic book writer, Crown Shepherd (aka Crown the Writer) joins the podcast to explore the journey of discovering and harnessing her own superpower and genius. Crown's writing is deeply rooted in her upbringing and surroundings and she draws on her experiences to create Black characters who are a representation of…
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Chaun Webster, Graphic Designer, Publisher and Poet, is back on the podcast to talk about and read from his newly published poetry collection, Wail Song. Chaun describes Wail Song as an “attempt at care,” which also “lays bare how the construction of the human and the animal both rely on Black abjection.” In this episode, Chaun discusses this long …
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‘Black People Don’t Use Measuring Spoons’ is the third installment of our Women’s History Month series. In this episode, Tracine talks to Leah Penniman, a Black Kreyol farmer, mother, soil nerd, author and food justice activist from Soul Fire Farm in Grafton, New York. Together, they explore the connections that Black communities, Indigenous Commun…
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Respecting Mothers as Loving Experts - Part 3 of 3 is part of our Women’s History Month series. In this special three-part episode, we are honored to share the wisdom, discernment, and intuition of eight mothers who are experts at living. In Part 3, we speak with Ajibike “BiKé” Ojomo, Michelle Dennard and Portia Jackson. In their own words, we hea…
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Respecting Mothers as Loving Experts - Part 1 of 3 is part of our Women’s History Month series. In this special three-part episode, we are honored to share the wisdom, discernment, and intuition of eight mothers who are experts at living. In Part 1, we speak with with Julia Freeman, Nyia Harris, and Chakita “Kita” Lewis. In their own words, we hear…
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Respecting Mothers as Loving Experts - Part 2 of 3 is part of our Women’s History Month series. In this special three-part episode, we are honored to share the wisdom, discernment, and intuition of eight mothers who are experts at living. In Part 2, we speak with Jill Greendeer, an Indigenous mother and Eboun Wilbourn, a Laotian mother. In their ow…
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Are you struggling to find happiness at work — or in your professional life? Ashley and Sumi are here with a lot of real talk as they unpack an issue that a lot of us women face. It starts with reevaluating where you want to end up on the corporate ladder in terms of what will provide you with the most happiness. That can lead to questioning whethe…
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Are you being bombarded by people telling you to start a side hustle? How easy is it and are the coaching programs worth it? What should you really consider before investing your money in someone else's course? Ashley and Sumi are lifting the hood on this Instagrammable world where we see influencers on holiday in exotic locations having these mill…
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‘Forward Figures: Untold Stories of Black Girls and Women’ is part of our Women’s History Month series. In this episode, Tracine talks to Nana Darkoa Sekyiamah, a Ghanaian feminist, writer and author of The Sex Lives of African Women, which Publishers Weekly described as “an astonishing report on the quest for sexual liberation.” We talk with Nana …
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Our first episode takes inspiration from feminist writer and thinker, bell hooks. All About Love is an intimate discussion with Chaun Webster, a Minneapolis Graphic Designer, Publisher and Poet, that explores love as a practice for rewriting the rules of society. In conversation with host Tracine, Chaun explores how love informs his artistic practi…
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What milestones are worth celebrating? As women we celebrate getting engaged, getting married, and having babies – all things that have to do with men! It's time for a culture shift. Women Rewriting the Rules are urging us to consider what self-care looks like in terms of celebrating milestones that are important to you! It may be a new job, a prom…
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We are Rewriting the Rules℠ A new bi-weekly podcast series brought to you by St. Paul Youth Services, a Minnesota US based non-profit that is a leader in reimagining how our community engages with and holds itself accountable for Black youth. Episodes begin on Thursday, February 16th. Learn more at www.SPYS.org/podcast…
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Ashley and Sumi are bubbling over with delight into the new year that is 2023. Women Rewriting The Rules are looking at goal setting in this episode — while the year is still young and our enthusiasm to realize our potential is still strong. But what if you don’t even realize your true potential? What if the goals you are setting for yourself are t…
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New Year, New You? Heavy on the question mark. Is it actually going to happen? It’s the end of the year and people seem to have tons of energy to reclaim a new path for their life and have big audacious plans that don’t always work out. In this episode of Season One of Women Rewriting the Rules, Sumi and Ashley are challenging our preconceived idea…
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How do you navigate disappointments during the holidays? And how do you recover from them? Ashley and Sumi are answering your listener questions in this poignant episode of Women Rewriting the Rules as they demonstrate that there’s no one way to be a modern woman. There are different ways to embrace the holidays, handle conflict, and recover during…
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Thanksgiving has passed but hold on, don’t stop giving thanks just yet. It’s the holiday season, so you’ve probably seen a thousand cheesy posts on the internet, by now, about choosing gratitude or having a grateful heart and the like. Sometimes that does feel like a lot of woo-woo talk when you’re facing the daily difficulties of life, doesn’t it?…
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Did you know that in 2020 the average consumer spent $850 on Christmas gifts? If you're earning the average women's salary of around $36000 per year, that's more than 2% of your annual salary on gifts for the Christmas season. For Ashley, this brings up feelings of guilt and obligation around gifting during the Christmas season. And she's alongside…
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Are you ready for increased intimacy with a loved one during the holidays? We're not just talking about physical intimacy. There's experiential intimacy, spiritual intimacy, intellectual intimacy, and many other ways that we can make ourselves vulnerable to the moment as we explore a greater depth with those we love (including ourselves). Ashley an…
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Are you taking the time to reflect on what is important to you during the holiday season? How much are you going along with family traditions that don't serve you anymore? And have you given any thought to creating new holiday traditions that empower you as a single woman? Sumi and Ashley are together again, reflecting on their traditions growing u…
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Do you have a tendency to lean into the holiday stress? What if, instead, you leaned into the holiday glow-up? Women Rewriting the Rules are here today with their lists on how to live a better life during the holiday season, ensuring that you thrive during the stressful holiday season – and then go into the new year with new energy! What are Sumi a…
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Are you a single woman of color ready to level up and live an unapologetic life? If you’re looking for more community, more happiness, and more fulfillment with greater ease, then this is the show for you. Women Rewriting the Rules is here to help you take control of your story, figure out what’s holding you back, and set you up to fulfill your wil…
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What if you could step comfortably into your own unique identity, erase societal expectations that have conditioned you since birth, and love your life exactly as it is right now today while also confidently pursuing your audacious goals for the future? You CAN. And Women Rewriting the Rules is going to show you how. This is the podcast where we ex…
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