Etiquette has a new judge. Graham Cameron and Neil Zumwalde investigate improvised social lawbreaking in a moderately thrilling, low-stakes fictional true crime podcast. We weekly and boldly prosecute the most innocuous violations of social decorum in a world that’s both too polite for its own good, and too shamelessly chaotic to continue unpunished. In each episode, one of us brings a "case file", an unlegislated social law. We collectively create a scene in which this law is broken, leavin ...
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Boots v. Fur (with Haley OC)
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43:02A crisp autumn breeze on your face. Your hands warmed by a foil-covered casserole dish. Anticipation of spending quality time with friends fresh on your mind. The front door opens, you step into the foyer, a friendly Labrador wags their tale in greeting…but wait, would you mind removing your shoes? Record scratch. The scene freezes. It’s time we ge…
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Daddy's Nails v. The Kitchen Table
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32:13Ooooh boy, we may have stepped in it on this one. There are picketers outside the courthouse! Our gavels are in hot water! No need to schedule your manicurist this week, Judges Neil and Graham are here to settle all your nail care needs. We take an archeological trip through human history to search for one reason why witnessing fingernail trimming …
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Social Prattle v. Should We Tattle (with Jenny Zigrino)
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29:33Oh gossip, that ancient pleasure. A victimless crime... right? Right. This week we’re joined by Jenny Zigrino to dig into the social laws on hot, juicy gossip. Together, we can make America gossip again, and spill the proverbial tea into the Boston Harbor. Is it only okay if it’s about someone your gossip partner knows? Can the courts institute men…
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A Person's Birthday v. A Cat's Desire (with Danielle Shvartsman)
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45:07What’s an excuse to party but not quite as special as your birthday party? That’s right. Someone else’s birthday party. And what’s more complicated than Italian physicist Gabriele Veneziano’s string theory? When your friend doesn’t want to do anything for their birthday but you think that deep down they may want you to actually do something but the…
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Wedding Destination v. Gift Obligation (with Danielle Shvartsman)
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37:34At what point does "All Inclusive" become all exclusive? Here at Premeditated, we travelling to the Baja Peninsula to celebrate love. But are we supposed to give the well-travelled couple a gift? Does the wedding hangover necessitate a money hangover too? Oh the indignity! We'll deliberate on this question, gift registry culture, chips and guac and…
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Grandma Smart v. Kansas Board of Cosmetic Dentistry (with Will Smart)
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40:38We're all people. We all walk around in society. We all get schitt in our teeth. The PROBLEM? Our eyes are attached to our face in such a way that we can't see our own teeth! Whether this is a new discovery for you or old hat, the esteemed lawyers at Premeditated Law, LLP have your back. We do what we're known for, and that is tackle unwritten soci…
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Friends v. FIFO (with Mudslide)
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27:34You know how grocery stores stock their shelves by putting the new stuff at the back and pushing the old stuff to the front? Listen up Lucy, that's called First In, First Out. And well, hear our guest out, what if we FIFO'd our friends? On the Sweet Seventeenth episode of Premeditated, we invited our good friend Mudslide over to discuss when/how of…
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Cross Walking v. Cross Waving (with Ben Cassil)
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32:44Okay, sure, there's some established laws regarding pedestrian rights. But...do we believe them? Do we adhere to them on 100% of our little strolls around the neighborhood? Unless you're some kind of boy/girl scout (nerd!), probably not! On this episode of Premeditated, co-judges Neil & Graham enlist the help of dear friend and litigator Ben Cassil…
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Line Make Out v. Line Make Joke (with Kristin O'Grady)
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32:55We've all been in a line (or on a line, if you're an East Coast Crusty). It's one of life's unavoidable occurrences. Death, taxes and lines. And YET, the corrupt US Government continues to leave lines as lawless as the 1800s Western Territories. For too long people have been crossing the line when it comes to being in one! That ends now! It's time …
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Territorial Eaters v. Can I Have a Bite (with Mudslide)
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31:21Let's say you go out to eat with friends. Let's also say these friends order appetizers with the full intention of ordering a entrée later. What if they raised the steaks higher and suggest that you all order 'Family Style'? What do we do here folks?! Even if sharing food is your thing, how is a table of 3 supposed to split an order of 8 cream chee…
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Imagine you're a member of a family. Imagine you're a man. Imagine you encounter another man. There is no decision more dangerous or more rewarding. What NOW? Do you extend one arm? Right or left? Both up high for a double high five? Should you put both arms out and say, "Up!" And IF you commit to the hug, do you remain firm, pull away or linger? D…
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State of California v. resy.com (with Ben Messmer)
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24:40Should we, as citizens, make reservations? And if so, should we be offered a little grace with respect for punctuality? Also, panthers aren't animals. Our guest, Ben Messmer, brings an intriguing case file that promises to tickle your sleuthing fancy and leaves us pondering the depths of dining etiquette. From sharing stories about Michelin-starred…
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Hallmark Cards, Inc. v. Dept. of Sanitation
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25:48How long should you wait before you throw away a card? Consult the rules, before you offend your loved ones. Hosted by Graham Cameron and Neil Zumwalde insta: @premeditatedpodGraham Cameron and Neil Zumwalde tarafından oluşturuldu
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Humble v. Brag (with Ben Cassil)
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26:10Ever felt the need to celebrate a personal victory without sounding like a show-off? Join us for a captivating ride with the ever-entertaining Ben Cassil, The Disruptor. Tune in for a parasocial deep dive into a thrilling cold case brought to life by Ben. As we navigate the hardscrabble streets of Los Angeles, prepare for stories that merge the cit…
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United States Postal Service v. Curious Roommate
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19:12What would you do if a mysterious package addressed to someone else landed at your doorstep? Join us as we juggle the ethical precedent of possibly opening mystery mail, and imagine the treasures or troubles it might contain. Neil and Graham, your trusty hosts, get caught in a back-and-forth over roommate etiquette, mail privacy, and even a surpris…
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Indecision v. Unhelpfulness (with Kyle Taksar)
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26:03Ever wondered about the unsung heroes of the courthouse? Join us as we tackle the intriguing role of county clerks and their historical significance, all while holding space with out special guest, Kyle Taksar, Evan's sister. With her sharp legal insights, she's the perfect addition to our banter on society's unwritten laws. We dust off a neglected…
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Couples v. Conversation (with Tess Sorensen)
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22:20The doctor is in, and she's HUNGRY! Our improvised case file this week exposes the subtle violence of couples who only talk to each other. Quite the nightmare. Ever thought about how we all play different roles in social situations? Join us as we navigate the dance of norms with our special guest, Dr. Tess. She turns the tables with an unexpected c…
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Bottle v. Bathroom (with Jacob Grun)
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18:06Ever been stuck in a car on a long road trip, bladder bursting, with no rest stop in sight? Our case file has a Vegas-bound anniversary with tenants' rights advocate Kuba Güün. Hang onto your She-Wee's and Stadium Pals, this is a bumpy ride. As we journey through the hilarity, Jacob offers insightful perspectives that remind us of the importance of…
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Checkout Flagrancy v. Marriott Bonvoy
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20:00Ever found yourself pondering whether to leave a hotel room spotless or let the cleaning crew earn their keep? On this episode of Premeditated, Neil and Graham take you on a journey through the unspoken rules of hotel checkout etiquette and those quirky norms we all seem to abide by. From deciding if taking home those tiny toiletries is a savvy mov…
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Left Lane Laggard v. Lead Foot Loser (with Ross Kelly)
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22:37In a tire-squealingly contentious case, Neil and Graham, talk to Ross Kelly to tackle the most infamous unwritten law since the invention of the Model T: Get out of my way! Shown through the POVs of a young, virile couple and a college-bound younger sibling, we explore the in's and out's of going in and out of the leftmost lane. The speed limit isn…
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Elevator Conversation v. Body Position
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13:05Ever found yourself in an awkward social situation AND in an elevator? Today’s episode of Premeditated offers a look at those exact moments that leave us puzzled. We take you on a journey through an improvised reenactment of an office elevator ride gone not sideways enough. This chance encounter spins into a conversation about societal norms and th…
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One Flight Upgrade v. Two Travelers (with Tess Sorensen)
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20:51Ever found yourself arm-wrestling a loved one over who gets the first-class upgrade? In this spirited episode of Premeditated, Graham, Neil and our BFF Tess guide you through a hilarious journey into the unpredictable world of airline seat assignments. Alongside Gary Anderson and Mary Patricia, a couple just trying to survive on Spirit Airlines, we…
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Soiled Denim v. Regular Washing
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18:49In this gripping inaugural episode of Premeditated, hosts Graham and Neil dive into an investigation involving two college students caught in an unsettling dispute. One believes that denim, of all things, magically cleans itself, while the other is rent utterly aghast by this claim.As Graham and Neil uncover the case files of their friendship, they…
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Jennie Cyr, Jerilyn Towers, and Lynn Willette - The Murders of James Hicks
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1:00:50In 1982, a young single mother, Jerilyn Towers, went missing after an evening spent at a local bar. When police started to question a man named James (Jimmy) Hicks who was thought to be involved, another missing woman's case came to light... and the crimes wouldn't stop then or there.Caitie & Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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Lewis Lent - Jimmy Bernardo, Sarah Ann Wood, and Jamie Lusher
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1:02:11In October 1990, Pittsfield, Massachusetts was a small, quiet town where everyone knew everyone, neighbors didn't lock their doors, and kids were free to bike and walk everywhere no matter the time of day. Within hours, that all changed with the disappearance of 12 year old Jimmy Bernardo. The weeks following the disappearance were heartbreaking, a…
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The Alligator Man - Joe Ball
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1:03:30In the 1930s, a man named Joe Ball ruled Elmendorf, Texas. "Joe's Place" was a hoppin' spot- not just becuase beautiful women served beer and liquor, but because there was a giant alligator pit in the back where visitors were entertained by cruel alligator shows. Over the course of a decade, patrons noticed many attractive female employees coming a…
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Bertha Gifford - The Murderess Matron
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1:27:42The early 1900s in Missouri ("Missour-a", as Kate says) was a weird time. But nothing was quite as weird as Bertha Gifford. Between 1906 and 1928, Bertha portrayed herself as a helpful nurse, when in fact, she was poisoning her patients- including at least 17 men, women and children. Nobody was safe from her "tonics", but despite her best efforts, …
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The Strange Disappearance of Brandon Swanson
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1:13:43On May 13, 2008, Brandon Swanson was celebrating the end of his spring semester with friends at parties in various small towns in rural Minnesota. Shortly after leaving a house party around midnight on May 14th, Brandon's car became stuck in a ditch, and he called his parents for help. What happened over the next several hours is confusing and has …
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The New Bedford Highway Killer
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46:04In 1988 and 1989, a maniac was hunting at-risk women in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Leaving a trail of horror in his wake, at the end of the spree, 9 women were dead, and 2 more were missing. Did this killer get caught? Stop on his own? Get imprisoned? Or move to Portugal and start his murdering spree all over?…
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Olive and Burle Bramhall
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1:04:20In August 1978, Olive and Burle Bramhall were settling in for the evening in their home near Seattle when their lives were cut short by a senseless act of violence. Nearly as bad as the crime itself is the complete and utter failure of the system meant to help and protect the mentally ill.Caitie & Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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Starved Rock Murders - Frances Murphy, Mildred Lindquist, and Lillian Oetting
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1:05:11In March of 1960, Frances, Mildred and Lillian wanted a break from the hustle and bustle of Chicago housewife life, and slipped away for a gals weekend near the Illinois State Park of Starved Rock. Within moments of arriving at their hotel, the women disappeared, never to be seen alive again. This is another case of an investigation that was less t…
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On January 29, 2010, Tanya Nikitina was just leaving her job as a preschool teacher, when shots were fired, and her life was cut short. Her ex mother-in-law was arrested for the murder, and the strange explanations for the killing have evolved over the years.Caitie & Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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Lori Farmer, Michelle Guse, and Doris Milner - The Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders
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1:07:39June 12, 1977 was a dark day at Camp Scott in Mayes County, Oklahoma. That night, while nestled safely in their tent on the first night of sleepaway Girl Scout camp, Lori Farmer, Michelle Guse, and Doris Milner were brutally assaulted and murdered. While the case has been closed- just in the last year- many questions still remain.…
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The Red Head Killer - Laura Fisher, Blanche Zimmerman, and Nancy Boyer
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57:21This week, we take a cross-country roadtrip from New Orleans to Chicago and then to Washington D.C., following Joseph Dunbar Medley, a man with a penchant for red headed women. After escaping prison in Michigan in November of 1944, Joseph Medley goes on a three month long killing and robbing spree, leaving three young women dead.…
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Earle Nelson - The Gorilla Killer / The Dark Strangler
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58:49Between February 1926, and June, 1927, cities across North America were rocked by despicable slayings of mostly middle-aged land-ladies. In addition to being strangled, these women were sexually assaulted, and in some cases, mutilated. While he alluded police for over a year, Earle Nelson would finally get taken down by our wonderful neighbors to t…
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Hell’s Belle - Belle Gunness
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1:09:44This week, Caitie brings us a less obscure case, but one that has fascinated her for years. Belle Gunness was the OG Black Widow, having killed around 45 men, women and children in Illinois and Indiana. When you hear about her schemes, you will want to hop in your car and travel to the murder farm for the chance to uncover a watch, a package of dis…
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The Servant Girl Annihilator Part 2 - Mary Ramey, Gracie Vance, Orange Washington, Susan Hancock and Eula Phillips
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53:35In Part 2 of the Servant Girl Annihilator, Kate discusses the brutal murders of the final 5 victims. The mystery of whether they are all connected remains to this day, but the killings between New Years Eve 1884 and Christmas Eve 1885 will never be forgotten in Austin, Texas. Sources: The Midnight Assassin, by Skip Hollandsworth Chilling Historical…
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The Servant Girl Annihilator Part 1 - Mollie Smith, Eliza Shelly, and Irene Cross
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53:50In 1884 and 1885, Austin, Texas was rocked by a series of brutal slayings - most involving an axe - and all on young servant girls. In Episode 1, we focus on the murders of Mollie Smith, Eliza Shelly, and Irene Cross, all murdered at the hands of a deranged, barefooted creep in the middle of the night. Sources: The Midnight Assassin, by Skip Hollan…
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Don Miller Part 2 - Lisa and Randy Gilbert
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56:03In part 2, Caitie focuses on a brutal attack in the middle of the day, which ultimately leads to the arrest of Don Miller. But, if you thought his arrest would be the last part of this saga, you would be very wrong! Source: KILLING WOMEN: The True Story of Serial Killer Don Miller's Reign of TerrorCaitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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Don Miller Part 1 - Martha Sue Young, Marita Choquette, Wendy Bush, and Kristine Guske Stuart
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1:12:23This week, Caitie brings us part one of a two part episode, where we head to Michigan to discuss the despicable life of Don Miller. In episode 1, we will discuss his four murder victims, Martha Sue Young, Marita Choquette, Wendy Bush, and Kristine Guske Stuart. Source: KILLING WOMEN: The True Story of Serial Killer Don Miller's Reign of Terror by R…
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The Starkweather Fugate Murder Spree
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59:58In November 1957, the city of Lincoln Nebraska became a target for a weeks long spree killing, which would ultimately leave 11 people dead, and a young couple on the run through Nebraska and eventually Wyoming.Caitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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Caitie brings us another oldie this week, when we travel to Illinois in 1949. Joan Coward and her fiancé, Arthur Marino, were out on a late June evening, celebrating Joan's 17th Birthday. What happened next would be disputed, but it ends with Joan dead, and Arthur severely injured.Caitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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In the early morning hours of September 8, 1981, a Sheriff's Deputy near Mount Vernon, South Dakota, received a phone call from a frantic man stating his entire family had been killed. With a quick arrest came a sense of ease in the community. However, it would not last long. Sources: South Dakota's Mathis Murders: Horror in the Heartland, by Noel …
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The Brenizer Family
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1:02:51This week, we head to Wisconsin for a devastating case involving the truly unbelievable murder of an entire family. When a family of 5 disappears from a rural town in western Wisconsin, the remaining member of the family, 15-year-old Bruce, is the only one left to help police piece together the puzzle of what could have happened. With the discovery…
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Mared Malarik and Karen Ferrell
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49:32In January of 1970, West Virginia University Freshmen, Mared and Karen, went to a movie with friends, and after hitching a ride back to campus, were never seen again. This case brings you everything you look for in true crime: false confessions, repulsive suspects, and a questionable conviction.Caitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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On Good Friday 1936, two upholsterers entered the 4th floor apartment of up and coming crime writer, Nancy Titterton. What they discovered was a crime scene that Nancy herself could not have fathomed. The real surprise in this case however, is how forensics - even back in 1936 - was able to nail the killer!…
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Lewis-Clark Valley Serial Killer
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41:34This week, Kate brings us to Northern Idaho and a series of unsolved murders and disappearances that occurred between 1979 and 1982 and are all mysteriously connected to a single suspect who has eluded authorities to this day.Caitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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On the morning of March 6, 1963, Ruth Nelson opened her door to find a battered, bloody woman on her doorstep. She soon realized that this woman was a beloved neighbor, Carol Thompson. That, however, would be the least surprising part of this story.Caitie and Kate tarafından oluşturuldu
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On June 25, 1973, a seven year old girl went missing from the Montana campground where her family was vacationing. Somebody had slit open the back of their tent and snatched her from under their noses. None of them saw or heard anything. Susie Jaeger had vanished into thin air, plucked by a shadow. Officials would soon discover that the man respons…
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