Whether you are working hard or hardly working, join AEI Resident Fellow Brent Orrell as he explores national trends and public policies affecting the vitality of the American workforce and how to prepare yourself for success in our rapidly-changing economy. And whatever else happens, we promise it will take your mind off of your job.
Honest career advice can be hard to find, whether or not you have the network. Hardly Working is a podcast that curates trending career content, featuring highlights from Fishbowl Live: conference-level conversations with industry leaders and experts from the Fishbowl app. This is a weekly show that will connect you to water cooler talk at all levels of your industry. Working professionals will share their experiences and give advice on how to build a sustainable career, from salary negotiat ...
A brief history of the labor movement in the United States, from the colonial era to today - hosted by Liam and Owen
In this podcast series, entrepreneur Grace Beverley moves away from the traditional macho, business-podcast rhetoric, to get a better understanding of what ACTUALLY goes on behind the scenes of the brightest success stories. How did they get to where they are? What are the biggest mistakes they’ve made? What is the side to their work that no one else sees? Each week Grace and her guest open an honest dialogue about these topics, and share practical tips to help make our work and home lives m ...
Hardly (Net)Working is an interview podcast from Luna Brekke where she speaks to a variety of internet content creators (writers, artists, podcasters, streamers, and the like) about what they do. Community engagement, creative burnout, and internet nativism are some of the many topics covered. New episodes every Thursday!
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How To Buy Your First Rental Property
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Owning rental property can feel like a far fetched dream exclusively for the super rich. And while there are several variables when purchasing your first investment property, it’s more possible than you might think. In this episode, Antoine Martel (Founder of MartelTurnkey) shares insights from selling 500+ US rental properties in the past 5 years …
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Vikram Mansharamani on how to stop outsourcing your opinions and re-learn critical thinking
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This episode is a rebroadcast of one of our most popular episodes! We hope that bringing it back now will allow the content to find new listeners. Enjoy! ~Hunter Dixon (podcast producer, Hardly Working) We live in times marked by the omnipresence of the internet and instantaneous access to the accumulated knowledge of humanity. This leads us into r…
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Is Remote Work Sustainable?
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Meetings in our sweatpants, five second commutes from bed to desk, and the ability to work anywhere with Wi-Fi — WFH is now the norm. But is it here to stay? In this episode, Nick Bunker (North America Economic Research Director, Indeed Hiring Lab) dives into his extensive research on trends in remote work: what employers think about it, if it will…
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The Art And Science Of Influencing Others
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Leadership is about influencing others to collectively achieve a vision. But uncertainty as a leader is inevitable — how do you make solid decisions under those circumstances? In this episode, Kevin Black (ex-Army Caption and advisor to Corporate America leaders) and Christoph Lohr (youngest VP of strategic initiatives at IAPMO) break down the four…
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Victor Dickson on First Chances, the Success Sequence, and Safer Foundation
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We all deserve a second chance. But what if you never got a first? Victor Dickson leads the Safer Foundation, which supports the social and economic reintegration of formerly incarcerated people. The Foundation’s diverse services, including workforce development and mental health counseling, help people who are held back by violence, substance abus…
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Can We Regulate Big Tech?
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Today, tech is a modern-day Wild West operating under little regulation. Considering the grip they have over our day-to-day lives, their oversight shouldn't be left to its creators alone. In this episode, Steve Levine (Editor of the Electric newsletter) and Ben Pring (Co-Author of the book Monster) have a conversation about regulation in the tech s…
Everyone knows, change is hard. And your responsibility as a leader is to not only direct change but lead others through it. In this episode, business psychologists Charlene Li and Sharon Melnick discuss how leaders can equip themselves to navigate those moments in life when things get rough— whether it’s by examining yourself internally, or evalua…
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Grassroots Approaches to Entrepreneurship
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Mauricio Miller has spent years upending common beliefs and practices regarding poverty alleviation in the US and throughout the world, which has led him to question some of the central ideas of poverty alleviation. In his book The Alternative and his current work, Miller argues that that solutions to poverty are not actions done to or for the poor…
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‘Fake it till you make it’ or be authentic?
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Can you really be honest at work if you want to succeed? Learn why bringing your authentic self to work will get you ahead. Sabrina Horn (CEO, Horn Strategy LLC) and Fadi Baaklini (Director of Product Management, NLX) discuss how to be refreshingly honest at work, and how to use that to your advantage.…
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6 Tips To Find The Perfect Mentor
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Finding the perfect fit can be like dating in a major city - really challenging. How do you find someone kind enough to commit their time to you? And once you’ve found one, do you have to stick with them over the course of your career? In this episode, Teresa Rand and Al Smith (Boss Lady Podcast) discuss mentorship: six tips on finding the perfect …
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When Should You Get A Career Coach?
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Creating career momentum in a hybrid world is a new career game to play. 4 out of 7 working professionals want out of where they’re working, but don’t know where to start. Learn how a career coach can help create momentum, set boundaries and magnify your skills with Nicole Trick Steinbach (BRAVE Coaching) and Eva Beasley (Fishbowl Community Leader)…
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Personal Branding - Do I Have To?
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Social media has created an endless identity crisis of our internet selves. Is building an “authentic” personal brand the only way to achieve success? Learn how to be yourself (or not) on the internet and other tips gleaned from Gary Vee with marketing experts Joanna Soricelli (JS Marketing & Management), Alex De Simone (StarTalk Media / Neil deGra…
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STEM Voices: The Experiences of Women and Minorities in STEM Occupations
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Mentioned in the Episode STEM Definition July 2020 AEI STEM Survey STEM Interviews by Anne Kim Abandoned: America's Lost Youth and the Crisis of Disconnection Brookings Center for Technology Innovation United Negro College Fund STEM Without Fruit Black Data Processing Association Hispanic Heritage Foundation Inroads Program Fund II Foundation (Fund…
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Landing A Job You *Actually* Like
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We all want a job we actually like. This could mean different things: great people to work with, satisfying work, great benefits, higher pay, all of the above. But how do you find a unicorn in a complex market? Join headhunter and author Rob Barnett on networking, interviewing and standing out in the job search.…
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Building Safe Spaces In The Face Of Tragedy (Celebrating LGBTQ+ in the workplace)
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Making mistakes is part of the journey required to build safe spaces at work. With bravery and an open mind, let's ask ourselves what rules of respect we like to set for allies and for those within our communities in order to build sustainable safe spaces. Arya Davachi, Programming Director at Do The WeRQ, leads a discussion with queer thought lead…
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Leon Cooperman on the True Value of Billionaires
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What would you do if you had a billion dollars? You may have a good idea, but if you don’t, looking to the example of Leon Cooperman wouldn’t be a bad start. After a lengthy, successful career at Goldman Sachs and running his own wealth management company, Leon Cooperman has focused his attention on philanthropy, making daily decisions to benefit t…
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Is It Time To Leave Your Job?
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Everyone’s having existential questions: “Do I matter? Does the work I’m doing matter? Why am I even doing this?” If you’re hitting a crossroad in your career, join the Co-Founders of the Purpose Company, Gabrielle Bosché & Brian Bosché for a discussion on mistakes to avoid when deciding to leave your job, and questions to consider before you do.…
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First Workings Mentors on Discovering the Value of Mentorship
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First Workings provides multifaceted support for disadvantaged students from New York City, including access to internships, mentorships, and trainings. These mentors often occupy senior positions at major finance, media, health, or law firms, and help participants master both work and the social connections that make advancement possible. But the …
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First Workings Alums on their journeys from New York to New Beginnings
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The First Workings mentoring program is a unique experience for disadvantaged high school students from New York City. First Workings helps students access paid internships, training, and mentoring relationships at major finance, media, health, or law firms. The skills, experience, and social capital resulting from these opportunities are crucial f…
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Kevin Davis on his Finance Career and the Impact of First Workings
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Social capital and internship experiences are crucial to finding opportunities in the labor market and building a successful career. However, many students from disadvantaged backgrounds often lack the networks that can help them find and successfully navigate early work experiences. First Workings is a non-profit organization that seeks to create …
For college students, professionals young and old, and career changers across the nation and the world, graduation season is filled with hopes, dreams, and a search for direction. Access to mentors, professional networks, and job opportunities is often an essential step in these new vocational journeys. To commemorate this season of life, Hardly Wo…
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Prison Scholars Part 2: Robert Wood on his journey to desistance through education
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The choices we make and who we make them with are the primary factors shaping how we live. Few people know this better than Robert Wood. In the final episode of our March miniseries on criminal justice topics, Robert and I dive into how his perspectives, priorities and choices changed during his stint in prison, and how his association with the Pri…
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Prison Scholars Fund Part 1: Theresa Matheson on community education and work, in and out of prison
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In this episode of Hardly Working, Theresa Matheson shares her story of crime, incarceration and change. She highlights the role of community within prison in helping her step away from the beliefs and behaviors of her criminal life and her pursuit of education as the primary means of building a new and better life after incarceration. This episode…
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Dirk Van Velzen on his transition from crime to founding a nonprofit
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Incarcerated and justice-involved individuals are people with desires, goals, dreams and gifts, just like those of us “on the outside.” Dirk van Velzen, the founder and CEO of the Prison Scholars Fund, knows first-hand what it takes to discover and actualize the potential of people who are involved in our criminal justice system. In this episode, D…
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Brett Tolman on his legal career and leading Right on Crime
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The passage of the First Step Act in 2018 jolted criminal justice issues into the forefront of the public consciousness, and it has remained there since. As COVID ravaged prisons and unrest shook the country in 2020, the nation grappled with the role of the justice system in securing our society while bettering the lives of those all those affected…
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Identity Required: How pro-social identity fosters desistance from crime
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Desistance, the decision to abandon criminal behavior, is one of the great puzzles in criminal justice policy. Shawn D. Bushway of the RAND Corporation argues that desistance depends on achieving a new, noncriminal, pro-social identity, which is often a long and arduous process supported by empirical evidence. This rebroadcast of our December 14 ev…
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Jeremy Travis on prisoner re-entry and his storied career in criminal justice
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Where do prisoners go when released? How can policy create a better framework and process to prevent a quick return to incarceration? How can policy humanize the incarcerated while upholding standards of justice? Few people are more qualified to answer such questions than Jeremy Travis. To kick off our Hardly Working March miniseries for Criminal J…
Mentioned in the trailer U.S. is losing $1 trillion every year due to crime National Criminal Justice MonthAmerican Enterprise Institute tarafından oluşturuldu
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Ryan Streeter and Dan Cox on the State of American Communities
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Throughout America’s history, its people formed churches, social and fraternal organizations, and neighborhood groups at an astonishing pace. When we talk about “American exceptionalism” this is what we’re really talking about: the self-organizing community that solves its own problems. In second half of the 20th century, however, scholars and pund…
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Brent Orrell on Lessons from his Vocational Journey
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In this episode of Hardly Working, Brent’s research staff turn the tables on the host and interview Brent. In the last 64 episodes, Brent has hosted guests to discuss everything from the welfare system to neuroscience to Waffle House. This episode is a long-awaited (by us!) window into the host behind the scenes. What is the elusive “vocation” that…
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Howard Husock on The Poor Side of Town and Why We Need It
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Housing policy in America is inextricably linked with employment opportunities, small business ventures, education access, and a host of other issues that directly impact economic opportunity. Understanding the history of low income housing in America is key to understanding and reimagining housing policy today. On this episode of Hardly Working, I…
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Thomas Chatterton Williams on Race, Identity, and a Writer’s Vocation
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In this episode of Hardly Working, Brent Orrell is joined by AEI nonresident fellow and cultural critic Thomas Chatterton Williams. Williams’s two books Losing My Cool, published in 2010 and Self Portrait in Black and White, published in 2019, tie together personal memoir and philosophy to provide a fresh perspective on America’s history of racial …
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Joseph Fuller on Hidden Workers and issues in AI-based recruiting
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Amidst today’s labor shortage, employers are learning an important truth: we have no “extra” people. Unfortunately, many qualified workers are “hidden” from real consideration for jobs by ineffective artificial intelligence hiring screens, overly strict credentialing requirements, or a narrowmindedness from companies on how seemingly disparate skil…
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Annie Murphy Paul on the Power of Thinking Outside the Brain
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With automation changing the nature of work before our very eyes, it is more important than ever that we begin to re-think our approach to education, the workforce, and yes, even thinking itself. In this episode of Hardly Working, Brent is joined by journalist and acclaimed science writer Annie Murphy Paul to discuss how we can tap into our bodies,…
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Andrew Donaldson on American Culture, Writing, and Vocation
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When we hear the word “vocation”, many people think vocational training and technical education. But, the word “vocation” has deeper roots in the idea of a calling or an occupation to which a person is especially drawn, suited, trained, or qualified. By no means is this calling obvious, and in fact finding vocation often means a series of unpredict…
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Paul Ryan on Poverty and Opportunity in 21st Century America
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In the 1960s, President Lyndon B. Johnson began the so-called War on Poverty, expanding the federal government’s role in reducing poverty in the United States. At one level, this effort has been an overwhelming success: consumption poverty (the number of people who cannot afford basic goods and services) has fallen from 30 percent to 3 percent. At …
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Scott Winship on Tax Credits for Working Families
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Expanding economic opportunity for working and middle-class families has been a policy priority for decades, but there are better and worse ways to approach this end-goal. In fact, policies of the past have at times ended up being counterproductive, putting further constraints on working-class families or discouraging healthy behaviors like two-par…
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Dr. Alex Ruder on Benefits Cliffs
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When the Federal pandemic-related UI programs ended on September 6th, 2021, many Americans became aware of what low-income, government program-dependent Americans have long been aware of – a benefits cliff. This cliff occurs when public benefits taper off or phase out quickly, forcing beneficiaries to choose between earning more or maintaining what…
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Nicholas Bloom on the Future of Remote Work
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In March of 2020, the remote workforce skyrocketed from just 7 percent of the working population to nearly 40 percent at the height of the pandemic. The pandemic is winding down but it appears remote work is here to stay. In this episode of Hardly Working, I’m joined by Stanford economist Dr. Nicholas (Nick) Bloom to talk about the future of remote…
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Part II of Minding our workforce: the importance of noncognitive skills in employment
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In the age of rapid economic development and changing workforce demands, noncognitive skills are “master skills” which serve as a foundation for and amplify cognitive and technical skills. Communication, integrity, and organizational soft skills are in top demand by employers, and building and strengthening these characteristics is an essential par…
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Minding our workforce: the importance of noncognitive skills in employment
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In today’s rapidly changing economy, noncognitive skills development is the key to building a flexible, resilient, and strong workforce for today and in the future. Such skills include communication, integrity, and organization. They are in top demand by employers today, and uncovering how to develop them is an essential workforce policy area. This…
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Jamie Merisotis on the Future of Human Work
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Twenty-first century automation is fueling an ongoing debate around the future of work. Is the end to human labor around the corner? Will robots replace us? The short answer is no. The longer answer is that work is changing fast and will likely require the capacity to adapt and constant upgrading of skills. In this episode of "Hardly Working", I wa…
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Ep.8 Tolly T on Taking Opportunities, Dreaming Big & Living Life
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My guest today is Tolani Shoneye, writer, producer, host of 10/10 Would Recommend and 1/3 of The Receipts Podcast - a leading award-winning UK podcast and one of my personal favourites for YEARS. While Tolani is best known for hosting The Receipts, she has established herself as a trusted voice that resonates with millennial women on and off the mi…
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Pano Kanelos on St John’s College and the importance of the liberal arts
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The liberal arts are a frequent political punching bag for partisans on both sides of the aisle. Progressives have gotten used to “deconstructing” the “dead White males” of Western classics, leading populists to view them as either irrelevant for finding work or an actual threat to students’ well-being. What if neither view was right? What if the l…
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Ep.7 Running a Business, Being a Mother, Making it work with NEOM Founder, Nicola Elliott
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My guest today is Nicola Elliot, Founder and Creative Director of NEOM Organics - one of the first, and fastest growing wellbeing brands in the UK, which specialises in 100% natural fragrances. Nicola’s inspiration for NEOM came whilst working as a magazine editor, when she realised the wellbeing of her friends and colleagues was suffering due to t…
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Ep.6 Living a Life of Constant Improvement with Represent Clothing Founder, George Heaton
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My guest today is George Heaton, Co-Founder of luxury British streetwear brand Represent. Represent was founded by George and his brother Mike in 2012 after he started creating T-shirts while studying at the University of Salford. The brand now has more than 150 stockists worldwide, including Selfridges and Harvey Nichols in the UK. Inspired by Bri…
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Ep.5 The Science Behind Career Success with Dr Grace Lordan
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My guest today is Dr Grace Lordan, Associate Professor in Behavioural Science at LSE and the author of recently published Think Big, Take Small Steps and Build the Future you Want, which is all about how to create a framework that will move you towards your goals. Her academic writings have been published in international journals and she currently…
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The 'sansdemic': How declining fertility may be affecting the job market
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The declining birth rate has come for most advanced countries, and the US is no exception. Now, we are starting to see what a labor market reshaped by years of low fertility looks like and what the future may hold. Ron Hetrick of Emsi and Rob Sentz, formerly of Emsi, joined me to discuss their report on what they’re calling a “sansdemic” — literall…
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Ep.4 Doing Whatever It Takes To Succeed with Reece Wabara
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My guest today is Reece Wabara, CEO of Manière De Voir - former professional footballer turned e-commerce powerhouse. West Midlands born Reece began his career playing for Manchester City in the Under 16s team and went on to play for the England U21 squad before a strategic pivot into the fashion industry. MDV, the design-driven brand founded by Re…
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Worker retraining and transitions in a dynamic economy
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Helping workers transition to new careers has taken on new importance during the COVID-19 recovery. This has led to special attention being given to worker transition systems and the existing inadequacies in our current programs, especially when compared to those from other countries. Rachel Lipson and David Deming recently wrote an AEI report that…