FinOpsPod connects practitioners with the rest of the FinOps Foundation community. Real world practitioners will share their experiences and the Foundation team will share the latest news about the community. Learn more about the FinOps Foundation at www.finops.org.
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Stay ahead in FinOps. Listen to Top FinOps Professionals and get their insights about the FinOps industry. The content FinOps Practitioners need to improve every week.
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Welcome to FinOps in Action! Join host, Alon Arvatz, Each week, as he sits down with FinOps experts to explore the toughest challenges between FinOps and Engineering. This show is brought to you by PointFive - empowering teams to optimize cloud costs with deep detection and remediation tools that drive action.
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Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois get together to discuss what's new in the world of cloud when it comes to FinOps. There are two monthly episodes, one where we'll discuss the top stories we've found from this month and a second episode where we bring in a friend of the show to talk to us about a topic of their choosing.
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Tech Money Talks is The #1 Podcast Helping You Build a Cloud FinOps Career and an Online Business
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Welcome to Tech Money Talks, the podcast that explores the exciting intersection of technology, money, and entrepreneurship. Hosted by Brian McCumber, we delve into the world of building a career in FinOps and starting a successful online business that can lead to a six-figure income. In today's fast-paced and constantly evolving world, it's not enough to just have a job. To achieve true financial success, it's important to have an entrepreneurial spirit and build a lucrative career. That's ...
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Re-Air: Data Visibility, Collaboration & Optimizing Spend ft. Dann Berg, Squarespace | Ep # 50
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38:55What does it really take to drive action in FinOps…. without chasing engineers? In this re-air episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Dann Berg, Cloud FinOps Lead at Squarespace, to revisit one of our most practical and mindset-shifting conversations. Dann shares how the most effective FinOps teams create accountability without micromanagemen…
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The 30-Day FinOps Plan Every AWS Team Needs Now
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50:42AWS FinOps Updates: https://finopsweekly.com/news/aws-cost-optimization-finops-updates/ Join Victor Garcia and AWS Technical Account Manager Loïc Fournier for an in-depth breakdown of the most impactful AWS re:Invent announcements for FinOps practitioners. Discover how Database Savings Plans, Compute Optimizer automation, and new cost management fe…
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WNiCF - Interview with Erik - it started with vendor lock-in
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45:30Send us a text and then went in all sorts of interesting rabbit holes. Link on the CUR data pipeline open source tool: https://ecos-labs.io/ Merry Christmas everyone and see you in 2026
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Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps
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37:10Episode 47 Benjamin van der Maas: Using AI to Scale FinOps Benjamin van der Maas discusses how his team is using AI to scale their FinOps efforts. Topics covered include the necessary groundwork for effective AI implementation, the importance of domain expertise, and how AI can streamline reporting and analysis. The conversation also touches on AI'…
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English Teacher to FinOps Author: How She Did It
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35:20FinOps Cashflow Newsletter: https://finopscashflow.com Welcome to a special episode of the FinOps Weekly Podcast! This week, Victor Garcia sits down with Alexa Abbruscatto, FinOps thought leader and creator of the FinOps Cashflow Newsletter—to explore the evolving world of FinOps, the power of community, and actionable strategies for cloud cost man…
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Top 4 Insights Every FinOps Leader Needs Going into 2026 ft. Alon Arvatz | Ep #49
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10:09What did the world’s top FinOps practitioners learn in 2025? What should you change in your practice heading into 2026? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down to talk through key takeaways from 2025. I look back on dozens of interviews with FinOps leaders across industries to surface the four most repeated and most impactful insights from …
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Shifting from Cost-Cutting to Business Value for Executive Buy-in | Compilation | Ep 48
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24:27How do leading companies shift FinOps from cost-cutting to strategic business value? In this special compilation episode of FinOps in Action, we tackle one of the toughest challenges facing FinOps programs: showing business value to gain executive buy-in for the FinOps program. Featuring: Emily Cornock - Suncorp Group Zach Johnson - Splunk Tammy Bu…
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The Real Secret to FinOps Adoption
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33:26Join us as Katya delves into the world of FinOps, providing insights on explaining the concept to teams, adapting practices to different stakeholders, and optimizing cloud resources effectively. Discover common misconceptions, the importance of tailored communication, and successful strategies for integrating FinOps education into corporate process…
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WNiCF - November 2025 - News
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51:11Send us a text In this episode, SteveO and Frank discuss the latest updates in cloud computing, focusing on AWS and Azure innovations. They cover new features in EC2, Lambda, and Workspaces, as well as advancements in data management and AI. The conversation also highlights cost management tools and strategies, flexible cost allocation, and storage…
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Death by Dashboard: Why FinOps Needs Stories, Not More Charts ft. Gilad Katz, Riskified | Ep #47
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41:18Is “death by dashboard” holding your FinOps program back more than you realize? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Gilad Katz, FinOps Lead at Riskified, to explore why world-class FinOps isn’t about knowing every technical detail or pushing engineers to make changes; it’s about neutrality, trust, and telling the right story with d…
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How to Build FinOps Into Your Pipeline
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44:07Check Glassity at https://glassity.cloud/?utm_source=yo... Manual cost optimization is a losing battle. If you are still chasing engineers to tag resources or manually checking dashboards for waste, you are creating a bottleneck. The future of FinOps is AUTOMATION. In this episode, we dive deep into how to build a "Self-Driving" FinOps practice by …
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Why People Skills Matter More Than Dashboards in FinOps ft. Zach Johnson, Splunk | Ep #46
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44:26How do you turn FinOps from a reporting function into part of the company’s operating system? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Zach Johnson, Head of FinOps & Cloud Platforms at Splunk to unpack why world-class FinOps isn’t about dashboards or reports, it’s about business value, executive alignment, and proactive decision-making.…
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Why Rightsizing is Nonsense in FinOps (and What to Do Instead)
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46:34Our FinOps Weekly Courses: https://learn.finopsweekly.com Discover what truly defines a mature FinOps expert practice and the hidden skills, mistakes, and mindset shifts that separate beginners from real expert. Why AWS CostSlayer (Rick Triana) says that rightsizing is nonsense in FinOps. Newsletter FinOps Weekly: https://newsletter.finopsweekl…
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Stop Treating FinOps Like a One-Time Project ft. Borja Martínez, NTT DATA Inc. | Ep #45
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27:48Are you treating FinOps like a one-time project instead of an ongoing value engine? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Borja Martínez, EMEA FinOps Lead at NTT DATA Inc, to explore why successful FinOps starts with understanding your company’s business context, not just its cloud bill. Borja shared how his unconventional path from …
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Why Cost Optimization Isn’t the Goal – Value Is ft. Erik Norman, British Airways | Ep #44
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44:11Is “cost optimization” the wrong goal for FinOps? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Erik Norman, FinOps Lead at British Airways, to unpack why true FinOps maturity isn’t about cutting costs, it’s about creating value. Erik shared how a disastrous “do not delete” incident early in his FinOps career shaped his philosophy: that unde…
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WNiCF - Interview with Nic Guerra - Cost accounting
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41:33Send us a text In this interview with Nic Guerra, the unortodox accountant, Stephen an Frank learn about a new type of accounting...cost accounting. Frank never heard the term before. The biggest learning: cost is proactive. The conversation delves into the critical distinction between cost and spend, emphasizing the need for a deeper analysis of v…
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How to Win Buy-In for FinOps: From Resistance to Results ft. Tammy Burnitt, UiPath | Ep #43
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38:26Can empathy, sales skills, and gamification be the secret to driving FinOps success? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Tammy Burnitt, Director of FinOps at UiPath. Tammy discussed her 25 years of experience in IT and capacity management and how she founded the FinOps program during her time at Shell. Tammy shared how she transfor…
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WNiCF - October 2025 - News
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50:15Send us a text In this episode of What's New in Cloud FinOps, hosts SteveO and Frank discuss the latest updates from the TBM conference, then moving on to their usual FinOps news, with many AWS news: new EC2 instances, cost management innovations, and sustainability initiatives in cloud services. They explore the implications of Lambda billing chan…
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FinOps Made Fun: Leaderboards, Badges, & Cloud Savings ft. Amy Race, Citizens Bank | Ep 42
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33:43Can enforcing a simple tagging strategy transform your entire FinOps program? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Amy Race, Head of Infrastructure, Cost Management, and Cloud FinOps at Citizens Bank, to dive into how her company moved 99% to the cloud. Amy shared how her team went from inconsistent tagging and cloud chaos to a stru…
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How to Solve the Most Difficult Challenge in Enterprise FinOps
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42:04In this episode, we dive deep into the Hybrid FinOps Challenge where cloud, on-prem, SaaS, and AI collide. ✅ The biggest cost pitfalls in hybrid cloud FinOps ✅ How to align FinOps, ITAM, and SaaS management teams ✅ Why AI and data clouds (like Snowflake & Databricks) change everything ✅ Real negotiation tips with mega-vendors like Microsoft & AWS ✅…
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Building FinOps into the DNA of AI & Data Platforms ft. Emily Cornock, Suncorp | Ep 41
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42:52How do you balance cost optimization, business value, and innovation in the age of AI? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Emily Cornock, Executive Manager of Core Data Platforms and Cloud FinOps at Suncorp Group, to explore how her team is embedding FinOps principles into everything they build — from data platforms to AI systems. …
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WNiCF - September 2025 - News
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36:13Send us a text In this episode of What's New in Cloud FinOps, Stephen Old and Frank discuss the latest updates in cloud computing, including AWS Outposts' integration with third-party storage, new Amazon EC2 Mac instances, Azure's managed services, and Google Cloud VM Engine updates. They also explore pricing changes in Azure, the deprecation of Az…
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How FinOps Training Builds Stronger Cloud Teams ft. Idaliz Baez, RealOps | Ep 40
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28:24What does good FinOps look like inside a large engineering organization? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Idaliz Baez, Founder and Director of RealOps, who has one of the most fascinating journeys into FinOps — from contamination engineer at NASA to FinOps instructor and leader. Idaliz has trained more than 200 FinOps practition…
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Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy
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30:20Episode 46 Brad Payne: Integrating FinOps and Business Strategy Brad Payne, who leads the FinOps team at PointClickCare, shares how his team tackled cloud cost challenges not by jumping straight into optimization — but by focusing first on allocation and unit economics. That shift helped them uncover how cloud costs connected to specific products, …
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FinOps Best Practices 2025: Culture, Metrics, AI, and the Future of Cloud Cost Optimization
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38:56We explore how to build a strong FinOps culture, overcome cloud cost challenges, track progress with actionable KPIs, leverage observability, and apply AI to drive smarter cloud financial operations with expert insights from Amit Khina from DoItVictor Garcia tarafından oluşturuldu
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How to Drive FinOps Awareness Without Slowing Teams Down ft. Tom Cross, Aer Lingus | Ep 39
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31:52What does good FinOps look like inside a large engineering organization? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Tom Cross, FinOps Lead at Aer Lingus and a member of the FinOps Foundation Technical Advisory Council, to talk about building FinOps culture, engaging engineers, and shaping the global FinOps framework. Tom shared how he tra…
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Are your AI Costs Out of Control? Discover the FinOps Secrets
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51:19Learn the top FinOps strategies, KPIs, and quick wins to optimize AI workloads, cut hidden costs, and maximize business value.Victor Garcia tarafından oluşturuldu
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Build vs. Buy: Choosing the Right FinOps Tools ft. Peter Crenshaw, IEM | Ep 38
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32:10Should you build your own FinOps tool or buy one? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Peter Crenshaw, Manager of FinOps and M&A at IEM, to unpack one of the biggest questions I hear from FinOps leaders everywhere: when does it make sense to build, and when should you buy? Peter shared his journey leading FinOps at UKG and IEM, incl…
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Behind the Scenes of FinOps in Action for National Podcast Day ft. Alon Arvatz | BONUS EPISODE
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19:38PointFive tarafından oluşturuldu
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Managing Commitments, Anomalies & Regulations in FinOps ft. Gordon Douglass, SAP NS2 | Ep 37
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27:17What does FinOps look like in highly regulated industries — and why is speed so critical when managing commitments and anomalies? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Gordon Douglass, VP of Cloud Assets & Risk Management at SAP NS2, to talk about the real-world challenges of running FinOps in government and enterprise-scale environm…
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Cut Your TCO with FinOps and ITAM
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30:19Discover how FinOps and ITAM collaboration is transforming cost management in hybrid and cloud environments. Learn strategies to optimize licenses, avoid overspending, and maximize the value of your IT investments.Victor Garcia tarafından oluşturuldu
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FinOps Negotiation, Procurement & Tagging Compliance ft. Tim Nolan, DataRobot | Ep 36
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33:12Is FinOps only about cloud usage optimization or does it go deeper? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I was joined by Tim Nolan, Senior FinOps Engineer at DataRobot, who saved over $1M in AWS costs in just four months and achieved 99% tagging compliance. Tim shares his journey from engineering to IT finance to FinOps, and why negotiation skills,…
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Understanding AI's Role in FinOps
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36:08Learn how AI tools can enhance cost allocation, automate repetitive tasks, and create actionable insights, leading to more efficient and effective financial management. We explore how AI is revolutionizing financial operations (FinOps) with guest Ben Schechter, CEO of Vantage. Ben explains the intricacies of cloud cost management, the importance of…
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WNiCF - Interview with Erik Norman - Debunking the Iron Triangle
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35:24Send us a text Short episode packed with so many ideas and thoughts. In this episode, Frank Contrepois and Stephen Old engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Erik Norman about the principles of FinOps, particularly focusing on the Iron Triangle of project management. They explore the limitations of the Iron Triangle, emphasizing the importan…
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FinOps vs TBM: Governance, Shadow IT & Enterprise Cloud Costs ft. Peter Brauer, T-Mobile | Ep 35
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31:11Is cloud always the right move? And what happens when governance is missing? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Peter Brauer, Senior Enterprise Architect at T-Mobile, who has led FinOps governance frameworks responsible for over $150M in savings. Peter shares lessons from his transition from TBM (Technology Business Management) to…
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Measuring Business Value in FinOps & Getting Engineers Onboard ft. Swapna Samuel, BMO | Ep 34
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34:05How do you build a FinOps practice that actually engages engineers, delivers business value, and grows with the help of the community? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Swapna Samuel, Head of FinOps and Clarity Business Management at BMO and FinOps Foundation Ambassador, to explore how culture, collaboration, and community have b…
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WNiCF - August 2025 - News
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32:33Send us a text In this episode of What's New in Cloud FinOps, hosts SteveO and Frank discuss the latest advancements in cloud FinOps, including Amazon's new EC2 P6EGB200 Ultra Servers, cloud migration strategies, and innovations in data management and storage. They also explore cost management techniques, pricing changes, and the impact of AI on tr…
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Exploring TBM and ITS Integration with FinOps
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37:44Nilofar Bhurawala reveals how TBM and FinOps align to optimize IT spend, drive business value, and thrive in the cloud + AI era. Learn how to align technology investments with strategic outcomes, explore the synergies between FinOps and TBM, and understand their role in the era of cloud and AI. A must-listen episode packed with practical insights f…
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Why FinOps Fails Without Governance & Culture ft. Ben de Mora, Former GitLab | Ep 33
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39:41Is FinOps really just about dashboards and tools, or is it more about people, culture, and governance? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Ben de Mora, former FinOps Lead at GitLab, to explore how FinOps needs to evolve beyond tooling into governance, collaboration, and product management thinking. Ben shares his unique journey fro…
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Understanding FinOps from Visibility to Action
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42:26Unlock the journey from visibility to action in FinOps with expert guest Diana Lezcano. In this episode, we dive into the world of cloud cost optimization, exploring the tools, strategies, and best practices that help engineering teams reduce cloud costs, build trust, and make data-driven decisions. Whether you’re an engineer, finance leader, or pr…
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There Are More FinOps Career Paths Than You Think ft. Taylor Houck, PointFive | Ep 32
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33:55Where can a FinOps career take you? And how do the roles differ between small companies, global enterprises, and vendors? In this special episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Taylor Houck, FinOps Specialist and co-creator of the Cloud Efficiency Hub at PointFive, to trace his career journey across the FinOps landscape: starting as a practit…
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How Global Companies Engage Engineers & Build FinOps Culture | Compilation | Ep 31
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27:49How do leading global companies engage engineers in FinOps and build a sustainable culture of cloud efficiency? In this special compilation episode of FinOps in Action, we bring together insights from FinOps leaders at Choice Hotels International, Sysco, Under Armour, and Carlsberg Group. Featuring: Mike Routier - Choice Hotels International Sonal …
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Send us a text In this episode, Frank and SteveO cover the latest cloud updates that matter for FinOps practitioners: Compute & AI: AWS launches the P6e GB200 Ultra Servers, delivering record-breaking GPU performance for training and inference at trillion-parameter scale. Google announces FlexStart VMs to lower inference costs, while Azure rolls ou…
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FinOps Isn’t a Solo Job & Why Partnerships Matter ft. TJ Johnson, MGM Resorts International | Ep 30
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37:04How do you build a FinOps practice that balances cloud cost optimization, sustainability, and deep cross-functional engagement? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I am joined by TJ Johnson, Lead Architect for Platform Economics at MGM Resorts International. With over 25 years in IT and 15 years focused on public cloud and optimization, TJ shares …
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How to Make Engineers take Action in FinOps (via Collaboration) with Larry Advey (FinOps Expert)
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39:36In a recent episode of the FinOps Weekly Podcast, Larry Advey, an experienced FinOps practitioner and maintainer of the FOCUS specification, shared game-changing insights on collaboration that challenge conventional wisdom about working with different personas in organizations. Whether you're struggling to get engineering teams on board with cost o…
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From Cloud Waste to Engineering Empowerment ft. Sridhar Ayala, Adobe | Ep 29
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41:33How do you scale FinOps in a way that actually engages engineers, reduces waste, and drives cloud efficiency without sacrificing velocity? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Sridhar Ayala, Director of FinOps at Adobe, to explore how Adobe approaches FinOps at scale—shifting the focus from just cost savings to enabling engineering …
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Building a Cost-Aware Engineering Culture ft. Matan Ben-Ishay, Credit Karma | Ep 28
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38:57FinOps isn’t just about tools—it’s about culture, structure, and long-term trust. In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Matan Ben-Ishay, FP&A, Engineering at Credit Karma, to explore what it really takes to build a cost-aware engineering culture and scale FinOps sustainably across an organization. Matan shares his approach to balanci…
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Why FinOps Needs to Think Like Security ft. Victoria Levy, Alteryx | Ep 27
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28:54FinOps isn’t just about saving money — it’s about managing financial risk. In this episode of FinOps in Action, I’m joined by Victoria Levy, FinOps Engineering Lead at Alteryx, to explore how FinOps teams can learn from security, prioritize cost optimization alongside engineering, and get serious about forecasting cloud and SaaS spend. Victoria sha…
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Send us a text Join us, Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois as we valiantly record the June 2025 news episode of “What’s New in Cloud FinOps"; this time, indoors and largely free of wildlife interruptions. In this news-packed update, we tackle the latest cloud cost and optimisation news from AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud. Expect witty repartee as we di…
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The Cost of Bad Tagging in Cloud FinOps ft. Sherri Wooldridge, Carnival | FinOps in Action | Ep 26
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31:38How can strong tagging practices make or break your FinOps strategy? In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sat down with Sherri Wooldridge, Manager of Cloud FinOps at Carnival Cruise Lines and former FinOps lead at 3M, to explore the foundational role of data classification and tagging in cloud cost management. Sherri shares early lessons from her…
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