The Legend of Jonny Imerman

Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

In this hilariously heartfelt episode, Matthew Zachary sits down with his long-time friend and cancer warrior, Jonny Imerman, the trailblazing founder of Imerman Angels. With candor and camaraderie, they explore the raw truths of cancer survival, sharing stories about the “two bald Jews” throwing wild Young Adult Cancer Happy Hours, and the life-changing impact of Jonny's peer mentorship organization. From organ-holding contraptions in surgeries to the myths around “losing the cancer battle,” the two dive deep into what it really means to live, survive, and thrive. Don’t miss this legendary chat, packed with laughs, life lessons, and a healthy dose of 90s nostalgia.

Notable Time Stamps

[0:00] The Origin of Imerman Angels: How a simple idea turned into one of the first peer-to-peer mentorship nonprofits for cancer survivors.

[1:22] A Look Back: Reliving the early days of the young adult cancer movement and the infamous "Two Bald Jews Happy Hours" in NYC and Chicago.

[6:02] Cancer Survival 101: Jonny's incredible journey through testicular cancer, including an 11-inch surgical incision and the unforgettable "organ holding" device story.

[11:00] The Invincibility Gene?: Matthew theorizes on why younger cancer patients often don't believe they'll die—a hypothesis he dubs "the invincibility gene."

[23:30] Legacy and Succession: Reflections on handing over the torch, Jonny and Matthew discuss their journeys to succession and the incredible leaders now steering Imerman Angels and Stupid Cancer.

[33:13] Battle Terms and Cancer Culture: Matthew and Jonny debate the controversial language used around cancer—"warriors," "survivors," and "losing the battle"—and the emotional impact on patients and families.

[41:00] ClozTalk: Apparel with Purpose: Jonny shares his new venture, Close Talk, which designs conversation-starting apparel for nonprofits like Stupid Cancer, creating awareness through clothing with style.

Links and Resources:

• Imerman Angels (https://imermanangels.org)
• ClozTalk (https://cloztalk.com)
• Stupid Cancer (https://stupidcancer.org)
• Cancer Buddy (https://bonemarrow.org/support-and-financial-aid/support/about-cancerbuddy)

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